Here are the best list of reasons why it was smart of Pace to choose Trubisky over Watson

[run and shoot]

I'm just tired of the "we didn't draft Watson/Mahomes WAHHHHH" shit. It's so fucking played out. I mean, fuck Pace. I know he should have drafted Watson or Mahomes. He shouldn't have drafted Shaheen or Kevin White. He shouldn't have hired Fox or Nagy.

But all of that happened. And we all have to live with it. Incessantly crying about it and being miserable cunts about it 24/7 is stupid. Most of the discussions we have that devolve into nonsense about Trubisky are a symptom of grown ass men that can't let shit like this go. Lol. It's pathetic.

It's good that ppl. are waking up and are no longer accepting mediocrity......right?

 

[sevvy]

It's good that ppl. are waking up and are no longer accepting mediocrity......right?

If people wanted to stop accepting mediocrity, they'd have abandoned the Chicago Bears for a non-shit franchise long ago.

 

[run and shoot]

If people wanted to stop accepting mediocrity, they'd have abandoned the Chicago Bears for a non-shit franchise long ago.

When I was a kid, I saw it happen.....loss of $$$

 

[KittiesKorner]

uh...

so, the bears have sucked a lot since their last SB win, but, continuing to watch them regardless of how bad they are is 'accepting mediocrity'? Not to be hostile, but I'm not really getting the logic here.

If I 'boycott' watching them when they suck, does that make me a band-wagoner or in any way affect their decisions? Or do I, as a citizen of our spaceship Earth, just continue to watch them and hope they do well each season and chill the fuck out?

 

[run and shoot]

uh...

so, the bears have sucked a lot since their last SB win, but, continuing to watch them regardless of how bad they are is 'accepting mediocrity'? Not to be hostile, but I'm not really getting the logic here.

If I 'boycott' watching them when they suck, does that make me a band-wagoner or in any way affect their decisions? Or do I, as a citizen of our spaceship Earth, just continue to watch them and hope they do well each season and chill the fuck out?

Depends on if ur a ticket holder

 

[KittiesKorner]

Depends on if ur a ticket holder

what difference does that make? if I volunteer and pay to be a season ticket holder, or even buy a ticket to an individual game, how does that change the situation? Are you saying that season or individual ticket holders are accepting mediocrity?

 

[HeHateMe]

Depends on if ur a ticket holder

Why did you bold "ticket holder?"

 

[run and shoot]

what difference does that make? if I volunteer and pay to be a season ticket holder, or even buy a ticket to an individual game, how does that change the situation? Are you saying that season or individual ticket holders are accepting mediocrity?

Here's the deal. If people stop $$$$ supporting the Bears ( empty seats). They will get better. I've seen it, I've lived through it.

 

[KittiesKorner]

Here's the deal. If people stop $$$$ supporting the Bears ( empty seats). They will get better. I've seen it, I've lived through it.

are you really going to go there?

I have been attending Bears games live since the NFCCG when we embarrassed Eric Dickerson at home.

Please tell me how your or anyone's refusal to buy tickets (or merch, or watching on TV) has caused any change whatsoever since 1985.

Sorry if it sounds hostile, but you are chock full of shit, and clearly not on the STH (or PSL) waiting list, which has people still waiting for years (I am not one of them; I prefer watching from home because Chicago is a dumbfuck about public transportation to SF).

And let's go a step further: if your theory made any sense, you would only start spending your $$$$ once the Bears were good. But how can the Bears be good if, according to your theory, they can't be good if you don't spend your $$$$ on them?

In short, get the fuck out of here with that nonsense.

 

[run and shoot]

are you really going to go there?

I have been attending Bears games live since the NFCCG when we embarrassed Eric Dickerson at home.

Please tell me how your or anyone's refusal to buy tickets (or merch, or watching on TV) has affected any change whatsoever since 1985.

Sorry if it sounds hostile, but you are chock full of shit, and clearly not on the STH (or PSL) waiting list, which has people still waiting for years (I am not one of them; I prefer watching from home because Chicago is a dumbfuck about public transportation to SF).

I'm talking well b4 1985. Hell, by 1985 the dye was cast. Bears fans / ticket holders were sucked in. If you've lived in Chicago all your life, the formula has been " just be competetive and they will come" $$$$$. Thats for most of our pro teams

 

[KittiesKorner]

I'm talking well b4 1985. Hell, by 1985 the dye was cast. Bears fans / ticket holders were sucked in. If you've lived in Chicago all your life, the formula has been " just be competetive and they will come" $$$$$

touché, I guess. 85 was when I started attending, but, please address my second point: you will be refusing to accept mediocrity by not spending $$$$ on them until they are good, but in order for them to be good, you need to give them your $$$$? a bit tautological.

Do you ever consider that you might be taking sports too seriously?

 

[run and shoot]

touché, I guess. 85 was when I started attending, but, please address my second point: you will be refusing to accept mediocrity by not spending $$$$ on them until they are good, but in order for them to be good, you need to give them your $$$$? a bit tautological.

Do you ever consider that you might be taking sports too seriously?

tardigrade......actually ownership has to get off their butts and invest more $$$ in putting a better product on the field.....
when the team is a perennial loser.

Yes....the Bears were once perennial losers. Back then......They didn't sell out Soldier Field and games were "blacked out". I can send u a link to verify those gray days. What u saw in 85 was the result of a long turnaround process.
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Do you ever consider that you might be taking sports too seriously?

When it comes to the Bears.....perhaps. WHY? because of our SB win. I've tasted winning, victory, excellence, hence I have a disdain for for mediocrity, losing, and those who accepted losing.

 

[KittiesKorner]

tardigrade......actually ownership has to get off their butts and invest more $$$ in putting a better product on the field.....
when the team is a perennial loser.

Yes....the Bears were once perennial losers. Back then......They didn't sell out Soldier Field and games were "blacked out". I can send u a link to verify those gray days. What u saw in 85 was the result of a long turnaround process.
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When it comes to the Bears.....perhaps. WHY? because of our SB win. I've tasted winning, victory, excellence, hence I have a disdain for for mediocrity, losing, and those who accepted losing.

@run and shoot , what ownership can do is ruled by the revenue sharing George Halas himself advocated to put in place. We can't overpay marquee players any more than any other team (as much as Jerry Jones would like to), and that is thanks to Halas.

When you talk about games being blacked out, you are talking about not being able to see them on TV. I can't remember a time in the last 13 years I have been back in Chicago that a game has been blacked out. I don't think an NFL team's revenue works the way you think it works, especially since everything got reworked with the TV and distribution agreements after the strike which gave us the Spare Bears and Sean Payton as a Chicago Bears QB.

And I don't need a link to the 'gray days', thanks.

If you want to be mad at the team for being 8-8, be mad. Please don't let me stop you. But your personal resolution not to spend $$$$ makes not a rat fart of difference to how much better or worse the team will be.

 

[KittiesKorner]

it does actually make me wonder how many anti-socialists @here look at themselves in the mirror after watching such a socialist experiment as the NFL where most revenue is distributed and equalized between teams at least as far as it comes to signing players, and you can thank Papa Bear for that.

 

[run and shoot]

@run and shoot , what ownership can do is ruled by the revenue sharing George Halas himself advocated to put in place. We can't marquee players more than another team as much as Jerry Jones would like to, and that is thanks to Halas.

When you talk about games being blacked out, you are talking about not being able to see them on TV. I can't remember a time in the last 13 years I have been back in Chicago that a game has been blacked out. I don't think an NFL team's revenue works the way you think it works, especially since everything got reworked with the TV and distribution agreements after the strike which gave us the Spare Bears and Sean Payton as a Chicago Bears QB.

And I don't need a link to the 'gray days', thanks.

If you want to be mad at the team for being 8-8, be mad. Please don't let me stop you. But your personal resolution not to spend $$$$ makes not a rat fart of difference to how much better or worse the team will be.

Please re-read my post. I wasn't talking about the "13 years u were back in Chicago". 8-8 is nothing. People are gonna still buy tickets. If a team continues to lose yr. after yr. fans will eventually wake up and stop buying tickets. What do u think will
happen if fans stop buying tickets? If sales in any business continues to drop, what do u think will eventually happen?

 

[KittiesKorner]

Please re-read my post. I wasn't talking about the "13 years u were back in Chicago". 8-8 is nothing. People are gonna still buy tickets. If a team continues to lose yr. after yr. fans will eventually wake up and stop buying tickets. What do u think will
happen if fans stop buying tickets? If sales in any business continues to drop, what do u think will eventually happen?

I don't need to re-read your post, and thanks for not linking to it, as it would have been redundant.

PLEASE tell me when Bears fans stopped buying tickets to Bears games in your lifetime that led to the organization making any kind of change. As a fellow businessman, I would ask you to furnish it with PROOF.

Please also tell me more about how business works. I don't want to be hostile, but stop being such a condescending fucktard.

 

[run and shoot]

'Sell the team' chants greet Redskins owner Daniel Snyder

Hail: The crowd
The announced attendance was 56,426 and the stands featured a lot of green. At least the Redskins fans who showed up were, uh, spirited. There were multiple chants of “Sell the team!” including one in the final minutes that could be heard on the TV broadcast.

 

[KittiesKorner]

oh, cool, redSkins

 

[run and shoot]

I don't need to re-read your post, and thanks for not linking to it, as it would have been redundant.

PLEASE tell me when Bears fans stopped buying tickets to Bears games in your lifetime that led to the organization making any kind of change. As a fellow businessman, I would ask you to furnish it with PROOF.

Please also tell me more about how business works. I don't want to be hostile, but stop being such a condescending fucktard.

No I'm not being a "condescending fucktard" as u say. I'm just pointing out that ya can't have low ticket sales, low attendance and survive. Something would have to give.
I've seen sales drop in the 70's & early 80's ( I was a kid, but I remember). There were Lot's of empty seats at Soldier Field . Luckily Halas hired Ditka and thinks started to change. We started winning. Ticket sales and attendance went up.

 

[KittiesKorner]

No I'm not being a "condescending fucktard" as u say. I'm just pointing out that ya can't have low ticket sales, low attendance and survive. Something would have to give.
I've seen sales drop in the 70's & early 80's ( I was a kid, but I remember). There were Lot's of empty seats at Soldier Field . Luckily Halas hired Ditka and thinks started to change. We started winning. Ticket sales and attendance went up.

I would like you, as a fellow businessman, to prove that, rather than telling me you are older than I am and know better and therefore I should just believe you.

And once you do, I want you to show me how withholding your $$$$ in 2020 will make any difference whatsoever, as we have already covered how butts in seats means litte given the latest CB agreement, and there is a years-long waiting list for PSL's at Soldier Field. Business, remember?

Look, I don't want to be hostile, but I find your theory flawed. It's not because fans are willing to accept mediocrity that the team sucks. The team just sucks.