If the bears own the 4th pick in the draft...

[dabears70]

Payne or hargraves I still draft Carter if he is available.

Carter is a beast.

 

[Anytime23]

Carter is a beast.

You’ve never watched him

 

[Mdbearz]

Then you hit em with that Draft Day Kevin Costner line " I want my picks back, plus yours!"

"I want my picks back, and I want David god damn Putney, just because I feel like it."

 

[FozzyBear]

It looks like absolute shit. Are you telling me it’s not?

So you have terrible taste in movies as well.

^^^ dont waste your time baba

 

[pseudonym]

It's great seeing how many people didn't understand the question. Honestly, our future is hopeless.

I addressed the part about staying and picking or trading that pick to a team that needs a QB and moving back. No, I do not think we should take a QB in any way, shape, or form. No,

 

[PrideisBears]

I like my idea better (all green text because it would never happen, but I can dream).

1. The Bears end up with the 4th pick in the draft.
2. Poles goes all Draft Day after hearing that Aaron Rodgers has one more tiff with the Packers GM and says that he is going to relax and take the Packers money for two more years without even trying to play because he holds all the cards, and the Packers cannot cut nor trade him with his huge salary hit.
   1. Poles calls up the Packers GM Brian Gutenkunst (the young GM in Draft Day) and shows him how he, Poles, can get Brian out of that situation.
      1. He shows Brian that the Bears are the only team who can take on Rodgers' salary, but it is going to cost him ... a lot.
      2. He BSs Brian by saying that it is time for Love to shine as QB, and Gutenkunst falls for it.
      3. Brian Gutenkunst, seeing that it is the only chance of keeping his job agrees to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick in both 2023 and 2024 for Rodgers.
      4. The Packers redo Rodgers' contract, which he readily agrees to because he will get his 100 million right away, instead of waiting two years to get it. He will also get to leave Green Bay.
      5. The Bears agree to pay 80 million of Rodgers' salary, the Packers eating 20 million.
   2. Poles calls up Jim Irsay, bypassing Chris Ballard, because he knows that Irsay often does stupid things without consulting or overruling Ballard, like the Jeff Saturday hire.
      1. He tells him that he has a future Hall-of-fame QB that he can trade him, but it is going to cost him a lot.
      2. He says that it will cost the Colts a 1st and a 2nd in both 2023 and 2024. Irsay balks at the price.
         1. After Irsay consults with people in the know about Rodgers' career, he calls back and says he wants to make the deal.
            1. Poles again goes all Draft Day and tells him that the deal was for the previous call and no longer is on the table.
               1. Irsay starts crying, wanting Rodgers to be his QB in 2023.
               2. Poles said that it is going to cost him more.
                  1. He wants the Colts 1st and 2nd round picks in both 2023 and 2024.
                  2. He wants the Colts to pay 20 million of Rodgers' salary and ...
                  3. He wants a player ...
                     1. Flus says ... DeForest Buckner.
                  4. Irsay agrees to that.
                  5. Buckners contract does not have to be redone because there is no more guaranteed money. His cost will be around 19 million per year for 2 years.
      3. Poles pays 60 million of Rodgers' salary hit and 18 for Buckner in 2023, still having around 41 million in cap space to address other needs.
      4. Poles ends up with 3 first rounders and 3 second rounders in 2023 and 2024 (one of each is their own).
      5. Poles then has the choice of getting two king's ransoms (because the Packers' pick is also top 10), one king's ransom and one top DE or 3 Tech or two top players, knowing that the Bears will get at least one top 10 pick from the Packers in 2024 because, well, Love is their QB.
      6. He can fill additional needs with the 3 2nd-round picks in 2023 and top it off with 6 picks in the top 60 in 2024.
      7. He can play the trade down for one or two king's ransoms for years, seeing that he now has his franchise QB.

Just a dream, but it sure would be nice.

Bearnut?

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Bearnut?

No, but it is fun throwing out a crazy idea every once in a while.

 

[Menchifus]

If one of the 2 QBs is there at pick 4 and you can't get a desperate team to move up in trade, you need to be fired as a GM. But most likely, the 2nd QB wouldn't even be there because some team would've already paid a king's ransom to move up to 2nd or 3rd pick.

 

[Runruffshod75]

I like Quentin Johnston alot. Usually I am biased towards defenders and I like Trenton Simpson ALOT. However the more I look at Simpson the more I think he slides into round 2. I'm not even sure there's an off the ball LB worth taking in round 1, let alone top 10.

There's ALOT of good 3 techniques throughout this class so we don't need to burn a top pick on a 3 TECHNIQUE DT. Quentin Johnston will be a strong BPA candidate when the Bears pick and will give the Bears one of the most potent WR corps in the league.

One that suddenly has ALOT of speed and SIZE. Draft Quentin in round 1 and A REAL CENTER later. Then use the rest of the picks and the 100 something million in cap space to shore up the defense suddenly take a significant step towards a Bears roster worth talking about as a potential long term contender.

 

[The Hawk]

Carter is a beast.

He is and if he is there when the Bear's draft, I think that they should take him and not overthink things. I think that the worst thing with the Bear's right now is the middle of the defensive line and Carter like you said is a BEAST. If he is gone when they draft then fine and they can try and trade down but don't screw up not drafting Carter.

 

[DB012031]

If one of the 2 QBs is there at pick 4 and you can't get a desperate team to move up in trade, you need to be fired as a GM. But most likely, the 2nd QB wouldn't even be there because some team would've already paid a king's ransom to move up to 2nd or 3rd pick.

Thats not necessarily true (GM needs to be fired). To use an old cliche, it takes 2 to tango. Just because 1 team holds a QB in high regard doesn't mean that other teams feel the same way.

The 2 QB's at the top of the board this year are rather polarizing:

• Stroud appears to have all the tools but struggles greatly under pressure AND does he fall into the standard Ohio State QB's suck in the NFL - (same criticism that Fields has faced)
• Young has questions around his size and potential durability. He would be the smallest starting QB in the NFL by quite a bit, would he last past the first contract.

So, should the Bears be able to trade back if they are at #4 and either Stroud or Young is available, yes, I believe they should (again depending on what they can get). But I also wouldn't be surprised if no one wants to pay what the asking price is (knowing that Chicago isn't going to take a QB and neither is Philly who should have a top 5 pick from the Saints) and take their chances that a QB drops (or are in love with another QB like Levis or Maye).

 

[wazzupi]

It's ha

Thats not necessarily true (GM needs to be fired). To use an old cliche, it takes 2 to tango. Just because 1 team holds a QB in high regard doesn't mean that other teams feel the same way.

The 2 QB's at the top of the board this year are rather polarizing:

• Stroud appears to have all the tools but struggles greatly under pressure AND does he fall into the standard Ohio State QB's suck in the NFL - (same criticism that Fields has faced)
• Young has questions around his size and potential durability. He would be the smallest starting QB in the NFL by quite a bit, would he last past the first contract.

So, should the Bears be able to trade back if they are at #4 and either Stroud or Young is available, yes, I believe they should (again depending on what they can get). But I also wouldn't be surprised if no one wants to pay what the asking price is (knowing that Chicago isn't going to take a QB and neither is Philly who should have a top 5 pick from the Saints) and take their chances that a QB drops (or are in love with another QB like Levis or Maye).

Also you have the lions and possibly the Packers right behind you that might consider a QB so you could be big braining it xD and still try to deal him. XD

 

[dabears70]

He is and if he is there when the Bear's draft, I think that they should take him and not overthink things. I think that the worst thing with the Bear's right now is the middle of the defensive line and Carter like you said is a BEAST. If he is gone when they draft then fine and they can try and trade down but don't screw up not drafting Carter.

I think the whole DL is the biggest issue. We need 4 new starters. We might be able to get away with having a A.Watts or J.Jones starting as long as we have good/great players at all 3 other starting spots. D.Robinson, T.Jenkins, Muhammed and every other DE we have are backups at best right now.

 

[wazzupi]

I think the whole DL is the biggest issue. We need 4 new starters. We might be able to get away with having a A.Watts or J.Jones starting as long as we have good/great players at all 3 other starting spots. D.Robinson, T.Jenkins, Muhammed and every other DE we have are backups at best right now.

Ok.... Jalen carter plays DT and is the best 3tech(pass rusher) for this defense. You find an outside guy and you'll have a decent line because Carter will complement a pass rush specialist at DE.

 

[bamainatlanta]

It looks like absolute shit. Are you telling me it’s not?

It was pretty stupid.

 

[knoxville7]

I like Quentin Johnston alot. Usually I am biased towards defenders and I like Trenton Simpson ALOT. However the more I look at Simpson the more I think he slides into round 2. I'm not even sure there's an off the ball LB worth taking in round 1, let alone top 10.

There's ALOT of good 3 techniques throughout this class so we don't need to burn a top pick on a 3 TECHNIQUE DT. Quentin Johnston will be a strong BPA candidate when the Bears pick and will give the Bears one of the most potent WR corps in the league.

One that suddenly has ALOT of speed and SIZE. Draft Quentin in round 1 and A REAL CENTER later. Then use the rest of the picks and the 100 something million in cap space to shore up the defense suddenly take a significant step towards a Bears roster worth talking about as a potential long term contender.

Johnson is a good player, but is he #4 draft pick worthy? I don’t think he’s a top 4 draft pick IMO, and if he is taken #4, bears better hit on him being a pro bowler to justify/make it worth the pick

 

[E.F.Hutton]

Center, 3T, and WR are this teams biggest needs. You can switch the order any way you want but there is no way you take a center with the 4th pick. So unless there is a WR or 3T that can help the team right now a trade down is the best bet. The Bears need an upgrade everywhere (except quarterback and maybe running back) so the more picks Poles has the better the odds of finding starter caliber players.

 

[mecha]

Center, 3T, and WR are this teams biggest needs. You can switch the order any way you want but there is no way you take a center with the 4th pick. So unless there is a WR or 3T that can help the team right now a trade down is the best bet. The Bears need an upgrade everywhere (except quarterback and maybe running back) so the more picks Poles has the better the odds of finding starter caliber players.

Omeletpants would refer to you as a trade down clown.

whoever cared about what that geriatric fuck had to say about anything though? I still think Bears need to fortify the defensive line. it honestly may take a couple drafts to get things sorted out cause they're bad in a lot of critical spots. the offense is putting up a lot of points that should be good to win any game, the Dline is just so weak they're giving games away now. I'm not complaining though, I'm all for tanking in a season where they never had a remote chance of going deep in the playoffs anyway. long-term strategies dudes.

 

[TL1961]

And for some reason one of the top 2 QBs are there which would mean Carter/Anderson are gone. Do we trade back ? If so and no one bites do you draft said QB (shroud or young)to call them out on their bluff for not reaching an agreement ? I'd love it for how ballsy it would be.

I seriously haven't seen any wild outcomes like this in the 21st century xD but I'd be so annoyed if no one traded for our spot to draft one of the two QBs.

Sorry just having a little fun don't take it so seriously.

One if the top two QBs is available and nobody wants to trade for the pick? Ummm…ok.

 

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