Is Deshaun Watson a liar????

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That article that was released late last year makes me believe Watson. The disrespect Pace showed him during the process is absolutely baffling and in all honestly a fireable offense.
 

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That article that was released late last year makes me believe Watson. The disrespect Pace showed him during the process is absolutely baffling and in all honestly a fireable offense.
So after hearing Watson contradict himself, you still believe him?
 

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Wow. People on CCS are either real dumb or are butt hurt about the abject failure of mental midget Trashinsky and are trying to change the narrative by unfairly dumping on Watson.

Watson said he never heard from “Pace”.... period! He did not hear from our GM.

He NEVER said that he did not hear from the Bears.
 
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Wow. People on CCS are either real dumb or are butt hurt about abject failure of mental midget Trashinsky and are trying to change the narrative by unfairly dumping on Watson.

Watson said he never heard from “Pace”.... period! He did not from our GM.

He NEVER said that he did not hear from the Bears.
Ok
 

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Wow. People on CCS are either real dumb or are butt hurt about the abject failure of mental midget Trashinsky and are trying to change the narrative by unfairly dumping on Watson.

Watson said he never heard from “Pace”.... period! He did not hear from our GM.

He NEVER said that he did not hear from the Bears.
Looks like he says Bears here
 

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From the get-go, Ryan Pace believed it was imperative to keep the Bears’ fixation on quarterbacks a secret. He went incognito to see Mitch Trubisky in his final college game, sitting alone in the stands at the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas, with his hat pulled low.

Later in the pre-draft process, the Bears chose not to host Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson at Halas Hall.

Instead, over a four-day span in mid-March, the Bears embarked on a three-city, three-quarterback scouting trip. Pace, Josh Lucas, coach John Fox, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains and quarterbacks coach Dave Ragone began in Clemson, S.C., at Watson’s pro day. From there they visited Trubisky in Chapel Hill and Mahomes in Lubbock, Texas. They hosted dinners and private on-campus workouts with Trubisky and Mahomes but not with Watson.

He considered it an important piece of the scouting pie. For months, Pace had kept his evaluations to himself, not wanting to influence his subordinates. As the reports returned — from area scout Chris Prescott, from national scout Ryan Kessenich, from college scouting director Mark Sadowski, from Lucas, from Loggains — the consensus in support of Trubisky energized Pace.

Fox, who rated Watson as his top quarterback, didn’t learn of Pace’s intention to select a quarterback until the morning of the draft, according to multiple people with knowledge of the situation. Other prominent figures in the organization received the Trubisky news from Roger Goodell’s mouth as the NFL commissioner announced the pick on live TV from a stage in Philadelphia.



For people that forgot or didn't read the Tribune story from a while back. I think it is pretty obvious the Bears didn't meet with Watson to the extent they did the other 2 and that is what Watson is referring too. He likely doesn't remember the minimal interaction he had with Bears as compared to the other 2.

The simple reality is that it was a rigged and terrible evaluation process. You can't come up with a fair evaluation of all 3 if you subject them to a different process and the fact is having dinner and a private workout with Trubisky and Mahomes but not Watson means you aren't getting a complete evaluation on Watson.

Further the claim that this is fine because Pace had already made up his mind that Watson was 3rd doesn't hold up to scrutiny. As the above notes, Pace was trying not to influence the process by keeping his evaluation secret. Well having private workouts and dinners with 2 of the 3 candidates is influence the process against the 3rd as it is obvious a private workout and dinner allows for a different evaluation than a pro day.

Second, it was disrespectful to the thoughts of those that had Watson rated highly namely Fox and Ragone. A well run front office evaluates all opinions and if Pace knew Watson was atop Ragone and Fox's list then he should respect that alternative view and vet it thoroughly to see if there was something others missed.

So what appears happened is that Pace feigned wanting to run a fair process but then set up the evaluation in a way that favored his two preferred choices while not giving Fox and Ragone's preferred choice a fair evaluation. And in the end, he paid for that act of hubris.
 

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Wow. People on CCS are either real dumb or are butt hurt about the abject failure of mental midget Trashinsky and are trying to change the narrative by unfairly dumping on Watson.

Watson said he never heard from “Pace”.... period! He did not hear from our GM.

He NEVER said that he did not hear from the Bears.
Bears fanboys are truly unhinged
 

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Not a single person on this board knows the evaluation the Bears‘ doctors gave him. Certain players with medical risks are taken off their draft board. However, they did go to his pro day. How is not speaking to him a lack of due diligence? It is common knowledge he is an excellent person that had zero issues at Clemson. They obviously watched a ton of tape too.
 

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How do you know what is his context was lol... Are you his A&E Biographer
I played college football in the Big Ten before going to law school. I was not highly scouted by the Pros but I had a teammate who was... a guy who got drafted high. I saw first hand that hearing from some obscure, no name Scout meant virtually nothing for him... he heard from those guys all the time ——- but hearing from a GM?? That was a whole new ball game.

Watson, the “Michael Jordan of Football” had just practically singlehandedly won the National Championship over a Bama team many considered UNbeatable. He was one of the hottest names in all of football. You had best believe he knew the difference between a Scout calling him and the GM of a franchise calling him. More importantly, you had best believe he knew what that meant —- as far as interest level.

A player like that, they ALWAYS hear from the GM’s of every single team drafting high. If he did not hear from the GM of the Bears - he did NOT hear from the Bears.
 

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