Is Deshaun Watson a liar????

[Alpha Male]

People are reading too much into this. Point is that pace never considered watson. Trubisky was his guy to the extent he traded up when he didnt need to.

 

[Jack Lantern]

Watson is human and like some of the posters here, it feels good to share "I told ya so's" when it's all said and done. Watson knows Mitch blows chunks and is a future clipboard holder and as an athlete it probably irked him a scrub like Mitch got taken #2 overall when he wasn't even allowed an interview.

 

[bamainatlanta]

People are reading too much into this. Point is that pace never considered watson. Trubisky was his guy to the extent he traded up when he didnt need to.

Lost in all of this is Watson will look average this season without Hopkins. His stats without Fuller are roughly league average, just wait until this season without a top 3 WR and a shitty run game.

 

[Midway Fields]

Wow. People on CCS are either real dumb or are butt hurt about the abject failure of mental midget Trashinsky and are trying to change the narrative by unfairly dumping on Watson.

Watson said he never heard from “Pace”.... period! He did not hear from our GM.

He NEVER said that he did not hear from the Bears.

His tweet LITERALLY says the Bears so wuttttttt.....

 

[playthrough2001]

At 1:40 he says he spoke to the Bears.

 

[FoCo]

Watson made up that the Bears talked to him in that tweet to to make teams think they were interested. The Bears did not talk with Watson.

 

[fenderpfunk]

Yeah I think Pace had his intern call him on a Friday at 4:45 PM and did a phone survey while Pace boarded a flight to North Carolina to meet Mitchell at a fuddruckers

 

[FoCo]

Deshaun Watson Clears Up Notion About Chicago's 2017 NFL Draft Snub

 

[Bearly]

From the get-go, Ryan Pace believed it was imperative to keep the Bears’ fixation on quarterbacks a secret. He went incognito to see Mitch Trubisky in his final college game, sitting alone in the stands at the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas, with his hat pulled low.

Later in the pre-draft process, the Bears chose not to host Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson at Halas Hall.

Instead, over a four-day span in mid-March, the Bears embarked on a three-city, three-quarterback scouting trip. Pace, Josh Lucas, coach John Fox, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains and quarterbacks coach Dave Ragone began in Clemson, S.C., at Watson’s pro day. From there they visited Trubisky in Chapel Hill and Mahomes in Lubbock, Texas. They hosted dinners and private on-campus workouts with Trubisky and Mahomes but not with Watson.

He considered it an important piece of the scouting pie. For months, Pace had kept his evaluations to himself, not wanting to influence his subordinates. As the reports returned — from area scout Chris Prescott, from national scout Ryan Kessenich, from college scouting director Mark Sadowski, from Lucas, from Loggains — the consensus in support of Trubisky energized Pace.

Fox, who rated Watson as his top quarterback, didn’t learn of Pace’s intention to select a quarterback until the morning of the draft, according to multiple people with knowledge of the situation. Other prominent figures in the organization received the Trubisky news from Roger Goodell’s mouth as the NFL commissioner announced the pick on live TV from a stage in Philadelphia.

Why did the Bears draft Mitch Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson?

Three quarterbacks. One draft. Three teams. Why did Bears GM Ryan Pace absolutely have to have Mitch Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson?

www.chicagotribune.com

For people that forgot or didn't read the Tribune story from a while back. I think it is pretty obvious the Bears didn't meet with Watson to the extent they did the other 2 and that is what Watson is referring too. He likely doesn't remember the minimal interaction he had with Bears as compared to the other 2.

The simple reality is that it was a rigged and terrible evaluation process. You can't come up with a fair evaluation of all 3 if you subject them to a different process and the fact is having dinner and a private workout with Trubisky and Mahomes but not Watson means you aren't getting a complete evaluation on Watson.

Further the claim that this is fine because Pace had already made up his mind that Watson was 3rd doesn't hold up to scrutiny. As the above notes, Pace was trying not to influence the process by keeping his evaluation secret. Well having private workouts and dinners with 2 of the 3 candidates is influence the process against the 3rd as it is obvious a private workout and dinner allows for a different evaluation than a pro day.

Second, it was disrespectful to the thoughts of those that had Watson rated highly namely Fox and Ragone. A well run front office evaluates all opinions and if Pace knew Watson was atop Ragone and Fox's list then he should respect that alternative view and vet it thoroughly to see if there was something others missed.

So what appears happened is that Pace feigned wanting to run a fair process but then set up the evaluation in a way that favored his two preferred choices while not giving Fox and Ragone's preferred choice a fair evaluation. And in the end, he paid for that act of hubris.

Pace may have not liked his injury history after being burned or arm velocity or pocket presence or whatever else he saw in film enough to pursue Watson and risk making his QB selection process that much more apparent. Had we been picking later, things may have been different. There's no disrespect here. Pace owed Watson exactly nothing. Fox was already a lame duck and I'm sure Pace at least listened to other's opinions. If you remember the draft room, there were numerous staff there with a roll call consensus on the pick. Fox was basically absent during games. How present do you think he was in the offseason?

This tail wagging the dog nonsense needs to stop. GMs don't owe draftees that they aren't enamored with an interview. In this case, it seems a dumb move and mistake considering Watson's play at this level but it had nothing to do with racism or disrespect. That Watson is butthurt about it is goofy but whatever fires you up.

I don't care if Pace did or didn't speak to Watson. It's immaterial whether Watson was embellishing then or is now. Pace was picking 3rd and already had 2 QBs he clearly preferred. His job isn't stroking a guy he wasn't drafting just so he felt better about himself and in the process let the cat out of the bag. Pace fucked it up but it had nothing to do with color or disrespecting a player. It's a business, not a soap opera. WTF!

 

[Noonthirtyjoe]

There was enough film on Watson that talking was not needed.

 

[playthrough2001]

From PFT:

“The Chicago Tribune also reported that the Bears talked to Watson both at the Scouting Combine and at his pro day. ESPN reported in 2017 that the Bears sent a large contingent that included General Manager Ryan Pace and then-coach John Fox to Clemson’s pro day to watch Watson. The Bears were one of only four teams to send both their head coach and GM to Clemson’s pro day.
Perhaps Watson has just forgotten it three years later, but the historical record indicates that the Bears did, in fact, talk to Watson before the 2017 NFL draft.
The Bears undeniably whiffed when they traded up from No. 3 to No. 2 in the 2017 draft to select Mitchell Trubisky, when they could have stayed where they were or even traded down and selected Watson or Patrick Mahomes. But while the Bears came up with the wrong answer, they did their homework.”

Deshaun Watson said before the 2017 draft that he talked to the Bears - ProFootballTalk

 

[Bearly]

None of it matters. Pace is allowed to do as he pleases and it had nothing to do with Race. People need to unbunch their panties. Pace simply fucked up. Won't be the last time.

 

[dabears70]

From PFT:

“The Chicago Tribune also reported that the Bears talked to Watson both at the Scouting Combine and at his pro day. ESPN reported in 2017 that the Bears sent a large contingent that included General Manager Ryan Pace and then-coach John Fox to Clemson’s pro day to watch Watson. The Bears were one of only four teams to send both their head coach and GM to Clemson’s pro day.
Perhaps Watson has just forgotten it three years later, but the historical record indicates that the Bears did, in fact, talk to Watson before the 2017 NFL draft.
The Bears undeniably whiffed when they traded up from No. 3 to No. 2 in the 2017 draft to select Mitchell Trubisky, when they could have stayed where they were or even traded down and selected Watson or Patrick Mahomes. But while the Bears came up with the wrong answer, they did their homework.”

Deshaun Watson said before the 2017 draft that he talked to the Bears - ProFootballTalk

It doesn't matter what proof gets posted cause the same people that are Pace haters before this will just believe the Watson side of this over anything that comes out from the Pace side. Just go through the posts in this thread and it's the same people that you would expect to take any side that goes against Pace that are doing just that in this thread.

 

[RubberBanMan]

None of this matters. Bears didn’t draft him

And they coulda had mahomes

 

[Aesopian]

https://imgur.com/XNw4LFB

 

[Black Rainbow]

All of this could have been avoided if Mitch drove a BMW.

 

[dabears70]

None of this matters. Bears didn’t draft him

And they coulda had mahomes

If we drafted Watson the same Pace haters would be hating on him for drafting Watson over Mahomes. Truth

 

[dabears70]

https://imgur.com/XNw4LFB

This is a scumbag move to ever blindly throw out the race card on anyone cause that shit sticks no matter how much of a lie it really is. Complete scumbag move.

 

[KittiesKorner]

Lol triggered

 

[JesusHalasChrist]

This is just more proof that Deshaun "Jussie" Watson was meant to be a Chicago Bear. Dammit, Pace!