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So a swing tackle that may start at the EOY. QBs best friend huh?
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Yes. A capable tackle that is able to take over in case the starter at either side is hurt and protect a QB is their best friend.
I’m glad you’re starting to come around. We can discuss the fundamentals of football anytime you’d like.
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so who is the LT? 2nd best friend?
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That’s a good question. Do you know?
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I have no problem with the Bears gambling on low round offensive linemen. You just might get lucky. I wish Poles would have done the same with low round WRs. Seventh rounders Bo Melton and Samori Toure are a couple who might have helped a depleted Bear receiver group.
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So, is that a no?
I’ll take your meme as a concession.
You’re welcome.
So, to follow up, since we don’t know the answer, we have to wait and see.
Was there a potential LT at either 2nd round pick? MAYBE Raiman. That’s a big maybe. Personally, I think the prospect we got in the 5th is a better prospect than Raiman. FGB took the other 2 I thought could start at LT later on. Now, seeing Poles’ picks, I think his prospects were better than those! So, grass is green, snow is white, and he’s better at this than me.
Now, some say he should have traded back. The Vikings gave up over 400 points of value helping Detroit become a contender! They had the worst draft.
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These guys break it all down. So, if people with better connections than you or I or any one that posts here are pointing out that the value for trading back in that round was terrible, Poles made the right call to pick two DBs. Again, keeping people from scoring actually helps win games. You know, fundamentals and all that.
I’m not sure if you saw my earlier post where I broke down how Poles won his trade backs. If you didn’t, the data and evidence is here. My analysis of the draft: valuing the trades and the first 3 picks feel free to check my math any time you’d like.
Okay, so this catches us up to today. The answer is that he’s either on the team or he will be signed. If he’s on the team, and it is likely with Jenkins and co., he is set, and it’s all good!
If we have to sign a dude, okay, Poles still has cash.
As far as the argument that we should have signed a WR:
First, the group as a whole shows how volatile wide receivers are as a class. Only 5% of wide receivers go on to be star players, earning two or more Pro Bowls. Twice as many impact rosters by playing in at least forty games (including spending time as returners) and earning at least one Pro Bowl, but that’s still only 10% of the group. They play in an average of 38 games with an average of 18 starts. Only 46 (21%) go on to start in at least forty games–which might or might not matter for a specialist like Jones.
Velus Jones and the Big 25
When it comes to predicting the success of an NFL player, draft age can be more meaningful than running speed.
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That’s very low hit rate for the first three picks in the draft. So, we got a dude that can contribute right away on ST and can take touches in the shallow and maybe get his deep a few times.
Tl;dr nobody knows but there are options.
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Did you really expect a serious answer after posting that a swing tackle who might play at the end of the season is a QBs best friend? Ok here's a serious answer. Literally anyone starting on the OL or a reliable target Fields feels comfortable throwing too at any level. His RBs. His OC. I would say all of those guys are better friends to him than a swing tackle who might not even play for most of the season. Either im being trolled or your CTE is flaring up.
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Oh, my bad I thought swing tackles were the guys who started when they needed to and so are almost considered starter status. Furthermore, getting a guy that can do that in the 5th round is neeto.
So, the OC, the OL, and the RB are Fields’ best friends as they allow for him to be able to throw, especially off of PA. I’m glad we agree on solid fundamentals of football.
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"started when they needed to". This means they are not starters. They are backups. What planet are we on where this player is more important than literally any of the starters?
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Oh, that would be the planet where one dude does two things and is a valuable asset that comes right off the bench. The swing tackle is considered a valuable position. Fundamentals of football and all that jazz.
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Is he more important than your starting LT? Yes or no answer and that will be the end of discussion.
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Well, that’s a bit complicated, isn’t it?
Is the nickel back as important as the SLB in the base Tampa 2? Which one is the starter?
So, if 1 of 4 becomes a starting RG and a swing tackle, that would be two successes.
Obviously, when I say “considered”, it’s not considered by you. And that’s okay. Many consider the swing tackle to be a fundamental part of the O, much like the 2nd TE, the 3rd WR, and all that. Again, obviously not you, but, you know, fundamentals of Fb and all that.
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You are being incredibly obtuse. This guy might not even make the team.
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Yes. In other news, we live on planet Earth.
Thank you for your jewels of wisdom.
That is how the draft works; isn’t it?
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so they drafted a 2nd round grade in the first. explains the last 20 years... a trade down was in order
