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JFC it’s one play, can you at least post another screen shot ffs
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Fields is a rookie. No shit he fails to throw with anticipation, he has been getting reps with these guys for four weeks. Again, these types of plays are completely normal for rookies, the difference is that other rookies are not getting pressure in their face nearly every snap AND have to deal with receivers not getting open. Usually it is one or the other, not both.
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We had another quarterback I made these very same reasons for his failure and many here hammered me for it
The fact I we won't ever know wtf we actually have behind center until Nagy and his clown show are ran outta town
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And then you will say that is only two plays.
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His being a rookie is why I think he will improve. It does not change the fact he has played poorly at times indepedent of the problems around him.
And no other rookies like Lawrence and Wilson have the same problems. You are full of shit if you are telling me you watched enough of their games to know they habe good OLs or have guys wide open.
Let's be real here. You made excuses for Nagy for a time. You made excuses for Trubisky for a time. You never see any issues until it slaps you in the face. You are a homer and an apologist which I aimt mad at you. But you will never acknowledge any issues until it is too late.
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Where did I say these issues don’t exist? Nice way to put words in my mouth to prop up your half baked argument. Nobody is disputing Fields is leaving plays on the field. He’s a rookie and that’s part of developing, you simply choose to focus on them a disproportionate amount.
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I didnt say he didnt do anything wrong. I clearly said he made a mistake.
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Just because he is “kept clean” doesn’t mean that a receiver is open.
On these kept clean plays, let’s say he has an amazing throw in a tight window to a receiver who drops it. You would count that against him because the completion percentage would drop, correct? So, my question is on these kept clean plays how many of them have good throws and how many or bad throws?
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Right, so you can't. Thanks.
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Why not judge both of them? When Nagy does something completely stupid then lets call him out for it..
But if the play that is called actually works and there are multiple WR that are open then how can you blame the HC/OC for that?
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its like your 5 years old.
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Where did I claim you dad they dont exist? My claim is your are fabricating how prevalent the other issues are. You hace made up a 90% statistic and now you are claiming he is facong things other rookies are not without any means to prove either assertion.
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No you asked how we can judge him which implies he should not be faulted. I responded we can judge him on his fuckups.
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I'm sorry but what?
In what world is saying we should judge the hc when he does something stupid but also judge Fields when everything works but he is the reason for the failed play acting like a 5 year old?
Did you quote the wrong person? Because your reply is really dumb
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No the metrics track adjusted comp %. His actual comp % when kept clean is 63.9%. His adjusted is 70.5%. The biggest issue is he only had 1 TD and 3 Ints.
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Well if your going to quote Simms as gospel...well then:
Former QB: Bears Coaches Give Justin Fields "No F**king Chance"
It would be one thing if Justin Fields were struggling in an offense that has worked before. One ex-QB is convinced that isn't the case here.
www.sportsmockery.com
Simms touched on a subject many have mentioned already.
Nothing about the Bears’ offensive scheme seems challenging for an opposing defense. It is so bland and rigid in many ways. Whenever a team is able to bottle it up, Nagy too often lacks the ability to adjust. Even though the Bears have made a greater commitment to running the ball and even changed play callers, the system remains largely the same. Especially from a passing perspective.Too many five-man protections. Not recognizing when a blocker is overmatched. Receivers not being able to get open. Not enough play action despite running the ball well. It just feels like so much of this offense lacks common sense at times. Never a great sign when you’re trying to develop a young QB and not get him killed.
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Well if your going to quote Simms as gospel...well then:
Former QB: Bears Coaches Give Justin Fields "No F**king Chance"
It would be one thing if Justin Fields were struggling in an offense that has worked before. One ex-QB is convinced that isn't the case here.
Simms touched on a subject many have mentioned already.
Nothing about the Bears’ offensive scheme seems challenging for an opposing defense. It is so bland and rigid in many ways. Whenever a team is able to bottle it up, Nagy too often lacks the ability to adjust. Even though the Bears have made a greater commitment to running the ball and even changed play callers, the system remains largely the same. Especially from a passing perspective.
Too many five-man protections. Not recognizing when a blocker is overmatched. Receivers not being able to get open. Not enough play action despite running the ball well. It just feels like so much of this offense lacks common sense at times. Never a great sign when you’re trying to develop a young QB and not get him killed.
Simms is right about Fields and he is right about Nagy. Time will tell if Fields figured it out or not.
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LINK?
Oh wait, you are just pulling snippets from your memory and we are supposed to Vash the MJY
OK
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I read that Fields has the lowest rating if any NFL QB this year when the pocket is clean. So he’s fucking up when the line is doing their job too.
also that 90% number is straight from your ass.
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I think people are forgetting that 32 NFL teams had a chance to sign Mitch Trubisky to compete for a starting quarterback job, and they all said, “Nah, man.”
Every single team looked at another free agent or what they currently had—many of whom are mediocre-to-bad—and they chose those options instead of Trubisky.
Free agency is the ultimate in showing exactly how valued players are in the league.
