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Either you want it to catch on or you keep it to yourself. Pick one.
Mike Martz says mean things about the Bears and Justin Fields. (Non football talk OK. This may not be a safe thread)
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Justin Fields in 'No-Win Situation' for Talent-Poor Bears
The topic on the table for Mike Martz was simple: From first to worst, list the quarterbacks in the NFC North?www.the33rdteam.com
Aaron Rodgers, obviously, is No. 1, then Kirk Cousins. I’m a big Cousins fan. … He’s very consistent. He’s very coachable.
I watched him as a rookie. In fact, when I was working at Fox Sports, we did his first start against Cleveland. He was a really good player, and I like him. I think they can win a championship with him. Is he a great player? No, he’s a very good player.
Third would be Detroit’s Jared Goff, who is a subject to the talent around him. But he is a long-stroke guy. In other words, it takes a little bit longer for him than it does for other quarterbacks to get the ball up, but he’s won before and he’s proved he can win.
Then there’s Chicago’s Justin Fields. Fields is a guy that makes a lot of mistakes and is not particularly accurate at times. He’s not a quick read-and-react guy, and he’s on a horrendous team. But I don’t know if I’ve seen an offense that bad in talent since the 0-16 Detroit Lions (in 2008). They just don’t have anybody there. … It’s a bad football team right now.
So, it’s an easy stack for me: Rodgers, Cousins, Goff, Fields.
It’s going to be a rough career for (Fields) there. And I’ve seen a lot of really good players go to bad teams, and then their career just never takes off, and I think that’s what will happen with Fields.
It’s going to take a long time for them to get talent there. He needs to be on a good football team behind really good players for a couple of years to learn how to play the position.
And, when you put a guy behind a bad offensive line and you have no talent at wide receiver and you tell him to just go make big plays, he’s going to learn bad habits. You start doing stupid stuff just trying to survive.
When Steve Young got to Tampa, that happened to him. He goes to San Francisco, and he’s now in the Hall of Fame. I’m not comparing Fields to Steve, but that’s just the situation, the scenario that he’s in.
I also have questions about whether he can really react fast. I think he’s a talented guy as a passer, but you don’t know how to evaluate him because he just doesn’t have anything around him.
And they were so bad coaching-wise. The head coach there (Matt Nagy) didn’t know what he wanted to do with him. It’s a no-win situation, and I feel bad for the kid. He needs to be on a good team where he can back somebody up for a year or two.
If he got to someplace like San Francisco, maybe it would work out for him, but I don’t see it working out at all in Chicago.
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Even worse…it was only one 3rd rd pick.
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If he only made his judgement based on the Bears 2021 offense w/Fields, you could see how Martz drew his conclusions. At least half of the blame was on Nagy's ineptitude about which Martz seems completely clueless. Mike "7-step drop" Martz. lol
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Your posts are really bad.
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More Mike Martz saying mean things in the last 10-15 minutes of the pod.
@Fearless Gun G.O.A.T I’d probably sit this one out.
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Cliff notes:
Compared him to Cutler where he said he has to “see” the wide receivers open as opposed to predicting them open like the “great ones.”
Compared him to Cutler where he said he has to “see” the wide receivers open as opposed to predicting them open like the “great ones.”
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Yeah that is what happens when A guy is in the league for a fewyears v a half a year with Matt fkn Nagy. Take the L here and move on man.
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This is essentially year 1 for Fields. and even beyond Fields, the entire roster. Any player drafted and then coached by Nagy should get a clean slate. They have already sifted through the shitty roster Pace built by burning SIXTY PERCENT (@dongbears) in one off season, that in and of itself is insane. But back to Fields, the growth from his last game (2021) to his last preseason game is all I care about.
If by game 5-6 he's shitting the bed still, fire away.
If by game 5-6 he's shitting the bed still, fire away.
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Tell Martz to to fuk himself, ?
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Seems like only one QB was able to see anything in Martz’s system??
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"Tell Martz he hasn't been able to see his dick for a few decades. Maybe switch to beyond burger patties". Fields 2022
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?I’m passing along an opinion about our QB. I pass along all the good ones too. ?
