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Most want to trade for Hopkins with an Amari Cooper like trade. Not a 2nd
Not the ones who make mock offseasons on here and Twitter. I've yet to see anyone suggest a trade less than a 3rd (the top pick of the 3rd round at that) for Hopkins.
 

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I'm sure they'd trade a 2024 pick for him, which they should have an extra of in a few months. I also don't think the Bengals trade him. They are either winning a SB this year, going to a 2nd consecutive Superbowl, or going to be 1 step away from the SB this year. They aren't going to break up that team until they absolutely have to. They can keep Higgins on the last year of his deal, then franchise him after 2023 and cut Boyd (the clear 3rd of the 3 WRs). They can get 2 more runs in before Burrow's big money hits and before they have to re-sign Chase.
I agree completely. Idk why they'd break it up before burrow and chase money starts hitting
 

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Not the ones who make mock offseasons on here and Twitter. I've yet to see anyone suggest a trade less than a 3rd (the top pick of the 3rd round at that) for Hopkins.
You have missed all my 4th and or 5th round picks for Hopkins with AZ. I fixed some ish with those mocks ?
 

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Not the ones who make mock offseasons on here and Twitter. I've yet to see anyone suggest a trade less than a 3rd (the top pick of the 3rd round at that) for Hopkins.
Awful ideas. Just too old and expensive to offer that much. Plus, he probably only wants to go to a contending team in 2023
 

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I don’t get the Tee Higgins trade spec. If Claypool cost a 2nd then Tee will cost a 1st. Y’all really want to keep spending high draft picks on WR’s due for contracts?

Fair enough but I’m not letting the Claypool trade prevent me from potentially getting a legit #1 WR and known commodity.

Hell, the Bears could still trade Claypool if they wanted to and recoup a pick. Albeit, it likely wouldn’t be a high 2nd. Might even be able to include him in a package for Tee since he would be cheaper to re-sign than Higgins. Tee is also quite possibly my favorite WR in the league so full disclosure there
 

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WR is one of those positions that historically you can find a good one outside of round 1. To keep throwing away high draft picks at it makes zero sense to me.
You can, is the operative word. Higgins is a great WR. And recent history has shown that teaming a young rising QB with a legitimized #1 WR can hyper accelerate his development. Would It be hard giving high up picks for Higgins, sure, but it isn't just adding a crucial piece to the puzzle, it is also speeding the development of your young QB.

I don't think Mia, Phi, Jax, Cin, Buf are complaining about the high draft capital and money used on WR's for their young QB's.
 

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You can, is the operative word. Higgins is a great WR. And recent history has shown that teaming a young rising QB with a legitimized #1 WR can hyper accelerate his development. Would It be hard giving high up picks for Higgins, sure, but it isn't just adding a crucial piece to the puzzle, it is also speeding the development of your young QB.

I don't think Mia, Phi, Jax, Cin, Buf are complaining about the high draft capital and money used on WR's for their young QB's.

Each of these are very different situations
 

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I mean, you can look at it as "throwing away high picks" or you can look at it as "supporting your franchise QB".

Eagles just spent a 1st on Devonta Smith, they still traded a 1 for AJ Brown and look where they are
Bengals had Boyd and Higgins already, they still spent a high 1 on Chase and look where they've been since
Dolphins just spent a 1st on Waddle, they still traded a 1 for Tyreke Hill and look where they were when Tua was healthy

We've seen what big WR trades have done for Hurts, Tua, Allen, etc. That's the incentive to keep going after WRs. While I will agree that it's probably not the best idea to assume that will happen just by getting a guy for Fields, I'm not going to let the Chase Claypool trade deter me from getting a stud player.

The Claypool thing is whatever. If he doesn't work out, fine, let him walk. You traded the 32nd pick for 1.5 years of him. It was worth a shot. Higgins is already a multi-year 1000 yard WR, and that's with playing alongside a generational talent who already came into the league with a chemistry advantage with their QB. The Bears are looking at potentially having an extra 1st round pick next year. The Rams have won a title while focusing on established players over unproven draft picks. It would be negligent to Fields if the Bears don't at least make a strong effort if Higgins hits the market.

The Eagles were absolutely loaded at other positions though. Bears aren’t. Different situations. Continually trading your picks for OTHER teams players and then paying them is just like Pace always trading up…. Bad usage of resources. The proven way is to draft your own guys…. Keep the best ones…. And then when your close maybe you make that final trade. Bears ain’t close…
 

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Fair enough but I’m not letting the Claypool trade prevent me from potentially getting a legit #1 WR and known commodity.

Hell, the Bears could still trade Claypool if they wanted to and recoup a pick. Albeit, it likely wouldn’t be a high 2nd. Might even be able to include him in a package for Tee since he would be cheaper to re-sign than Higgins. Tee is also quite possibly my favorite WR in the league so full disclosure there

Eh people worry about picks too much. The Claypool trade is a sunk cost. It should have no bearing on any other decision.

The Niners blew first round picks on Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster. They traded a 2nd and spent 100m on JG. They then spent 3 first round picks to replace him and still ended up starting the last pick in the draft.

The point is no team gets it right 100% of the time. What matters is if Poles gets more right than wrong.
 
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Exactly… too much
I absolutely see where you're coming from especially with how hard it would be having 3 WR's that all are ready to get paid but if we had a chance at Tee then i'd be in on him and try to make something work with the 3 even if that meant taking a loss on Claypool and trading him for less than what we just paid for him or even put Mooney's name out there to see what we could get back for him, but this is only if we can't find a way to pay all 3 at what their real worth is and not overpay, not too much anyway. Tee is a legit #1.
 

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Yes, if they are good. If Higgins hits the market, I think he's gonna be the best that does in the next few years. That includes free agency, trade market, and the draft (yes, he's better than Harrison Jr, IMO). He's a legit #1 cast as a #2 in Cincinnati. And the Bears have the money with nobody else on the team getting paid big money outside of Jackson.

You got people wanting to trade a 2nd or 3rd for 31 year old Hopkins. Trading a 1st (especially if you end up with an extra one) for a young stud WR you do, regardless of the Claypool situation.
The only thing i'd argue is if he'll be better than M.Harrison Jr.

But that has nothing to do with if i'd go after Tee if he was on the trade block.
 

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