CCS Hall of Fame
CCS Hall of Fame '19
- Sep 15, 2012
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Yeah he left AZ for health reasons.I haven't really heard anything like that. But he's at that age and had to deal with a lot of bullshit this year that would have to make him consider it
I mean obviously your data looks better but how much does that represent every fired coach who got a job with another team?
Another question is how many first time coaches 'succeed,' however you define that. It's not a large percentage. There is no set way to hire. And getting good players is the most important thing,
Quarter chub if true
yikes Harbaugh wanted that Gruden money.
is still do it lol
It’s not that funny. It’s well known for clubs or someone to say that after the fact. So it won’t discourage the other hire.One thing I do find a bit amusing was there were several reports that Poles was also believe to be the top choice of the Vikings over the past couple of days. Now that Poles is the GM of the Bears, the story is that the leading candidate for the Vikings was Kwesi Adofo-Mensah all along. Funny how that works...
I am not going to check your word and assume your 5/8 number is accurate, and it’s impressive. Better than I expected. It is interesting to me that more coaches in the NFL aren’t second or third time HCs if 5 of the 8 in the NFL have won Super Bowls.I sent you the list. You are free to check my work but as I said there were 8 retreads that were HC coaches in the NFL this year. There were 24 guys still with their first team. 5 of the 8 won SBs with their 2nd team while only 3 of 24 first timers have won a SB.
The 8 2nd time coaches are Campbell, Rivera, Arians, Carroll, Bellichek, McCarthy, Gruden, and Andy Reid. Of that group, 5 won a SB with their 2nd time ie Arians, Carroll, Bellichek, Gruden and Reid. Again feel free to double check my work.
I did not go back more years because you specific claim which you made sure to reiterate when I sent you the list of the 25 best 2nd time coaches was recent or current. Can't now change the criteria.
I already gave him that number. If you define success as SBs then only 3 current first time head coaches out of 24 have won a SB ie Tomlin, Harbaugh and Payton. I guess you can throw McCarthy in there since while he is a 2nd time coach, he won one the first time around.
Be nice for some notesNate Taylor, KC beat writer for The Athletic was just on the score and gave a comprehensive breakdown of the Chiefs infrastructure within the front office. He's written a detailed piece on this previously and has really good relations with some of them including Poles.
Was a good listen. He even gave his thoughts on some names (not ever mentioned elsewhere) on guys he thinks Poles could identify for not only his staff but assistant coaches that could pair well with the HC he hires. All based on Poles relationships.
Payton is taking a year off of coaching, he says.Does that leave an outside shot at Payton? That khan move is unexpected but could it be an attempt to satisfy Payton’s desire not to be interfered with by ownership?
Or like seemingly every other former Bear Payton has some bad blood?
Yeah, if you listen to the teams' version, no team has ever hired their second choice.One thing I do find a bit amusing was there were several reports that Poles was also believe to be the top choice of the Vikings over the past couple of days. Now that Poles is the GM of the Bears, the story is that the leading candidate for the Vikings was Kwesi Adofo-Mensah all along. Funny how that works...
Call me what you want, but I’d give that to him. Look at the damn candidate pool alone lolI listened to his interview and he said Jim Harbaugh had Pre-Lim conversations with the Bears and he wanted a Gruden 10yr over $100M deal and the Bears were not comfortable with with that risk of a long and that much - He said the Raiders aren't either after getting burned - Can't blame them - It is a lot to risk - So that is why Harbaugh fizzled out.
Looks like Quinn is the guy
I mean yeah- its not our money and it shouldn't even be an issue to the Bears to pay that.Call me what you want, but I’d give that to him. Look at the damn candidate pool alone lol
DBB said it this way and it kind of brought it home - It is a lot of money to risk and time to risk with only an email away from getting sued/fired/fined in society today. Gruden didn't even work for the Raiders when that happened.Call me what you want, but I’d give that to him. Look at the damn candidate pool alone lol