***OFFICIAL*** Jordan Howard vs David Montgomery official stat tracker thread

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using your own arbitrarily defined perception on what a running backs ypc should be without said "handicap"
When did I do this?
 

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Are people so defensive that they have a problem looking at week by week stats? It's a fact that Howard was Star of the Game Thursday night, and it's inevitable that he is going to be a bigger part of the Eagles offense going forward. Don't open the thread if you don't want to see the facts.
 

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Are people so defensive that they have a problem looking at week by week stats? It's a fact that Howard was Star of the Game Thursday night, and it's inevitable that he is going to be a bigger part of the Eagles offense going forward. Don't open the thread if you don't want to see the facts.
I think they all just need to calm down.
 

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I will use this thread to see how the 2 statistically match up against each other throughout the season.

Since Monty has the handicap of playing on the same team as Kyle Long, we will adjust his total rushing yards by +10 for each game. At least until Long gets injured in ~4 weeks. I think that's fair.

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Stats thru 4 weeks - 30 yards added to DMonts statline due to 3 weeks of Kyle Long handicap
JHow: 40 rushes, 186 yds (4.7 ypc), 3 TDs. 6 catches 47yds 1 TD.
DMont: 58 rushes, 230 adjusted yds (3.9 adjusted ypc), 1 TD. 8 catches, 67 yds, 0 TD.

Looks like even after the adjusted Kyle Long handicap, it's still J How > D Mont

Discuss
This is so typical for a "Bears fan"!
 

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This is so typical for a "Bears fan"!
I know, for some reason Bears fans tend to blast players once they leave the Bears and go play for another team, no matter how much they've done for the Bears. We saw the same thing with Forte, it was sad.

It's like dealing with a bunch of disheveled victims of domestic abuse. S M H
 

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Sorry guys, I forgot about this thread. But, no worries, OP has been UPDATED.

Stats thru 4 weeks - 30 yards added to DMonts total statline due to 3 weeks of Kyle Long handicap.

JHow: 40 rushes, 186 yds (4.7 ypc), 3 TDs. 6 catches 47yds 1 TD.
DMont: 58 rushes, 230 adjusted yds (3.9 adjusted ypc), 1 TD. 8 catches, 67 yds, 0 TD.

Looks like even after the adjusted Kyle Long handicap, it's still J How > D Mont

Discuss

Surprisingly, I went back and looked at Howards stats in 2016 as a rookie through 4 games and they were wildly similar to DMont's are now. He had about 60 more yards.

Phew, there is still hope for Monty
 

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Surprisingly, I went back and looked at Howards stats in 2016 as a rookie through 4 games and they were wildly similar to DMont's are now. He had about 60 more yards.

Phew, there is still hope for Monty
So you're saying both 2016 and 2019 JHow performed better than 2019 DMont?
 

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Surprisingly, I went back and looked at Howards stats in 2016 as a rookie through 4 games and they were wildly similar to DMont's are now. He had about 60 more yards.

Phew, there is still hope for Monty

Problem with this is Fox wanted to run. Nagy would rather get fucked by a raging bull than committ to the run game.
 

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Problem with this is Fox wanted to run. Nagy would rather get fucked by a raging bull than committ to the run game.
Yeah, I don't think it was a great comparison, but I was more or less curious.
 

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Aside from the one game against the Redskins, his highest ypc is 3.4 and that was against one of the worst run defenses in the league. Otherwise it's been 3.0, 2.3, and 2.5. I've watched RBs with worse offensive lines do better.

I had him rated as the worst of the top ten rbs in the draft. I then tried to talk myself into me being wrong because we drafted him. Unfortunately, I am beginning to think I was right.
 

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Bears fans are so confused they are making as many excuses for slow Montgomery as dimwit trubisky
 

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Two different systems.
 

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Yeah, and only one RB appears capable of running the ball.

Maybe but I'm confused as to why we got rid of Howard we said we wanted a QB that can catch? Was that a lie?
 

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Jordan Howard was a shitty running back and had to be replaced because he only gained 3.7 yards per attempt last year.

The Bears offense is currently gaining 3.4 yards per rushing attempt. Only the Bungles, Jets and Dolphins are worse.
 

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PFR's very cool/very legal advanced rushing stats-

GameRush
RkPlayerTmAgePosGGSAttYds1DYBCYBC/AttYACYAC/AttBrkTklAtt/Br
20Jordan HowardPHI255053248171112.11372.6317.7
25David MontgomeryCHI22RB5369225101412.0841.2611.5

[thead] [/thead]

Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 10/8/2019.
 

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