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I dont think intentionally trying to injure a guy because you favor Thomas Jones is normal or evidence of a serious team. They put their loyalty to Jones ahead of the team.

Benson was actually in line to be the starter for the 2006 season as Jones was unhappy with his contract. Instead he was injured in practice by Urlacher missing most of preseason and Jones got the starting nod.

Expecting anyone to just be ok with his own teammates actively trying to injure and derail his career is a bit much IMO. That conflict probably cost the Bears a SB and I blame the vets for it more than I blame a young RB. Regardless of how you feel about certain guys as vets you do whats best for your team and it should never come to trying to injure guys.

But of course this was a team run by Kreutz who broke his own teammate's jaw. Too many meatballs on that team.

I personally never liked the Cedric Benson pick. It never made any sense to me.

Having said that, yes, the veterans should have been professionals and not tried to injure him or otherwise hurt the team.
 

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I personally never liked the Cedric Benson pick. It never made any sense to me.

Having said that, yes, the veterans should have been professionals and not tried to injure him or otherwise hurt the team.
I did not care for it either.
 

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The Benson signing was always a head scratcher to me in that the Bears had just that season gone out of their way to replace A-train with Jones who while not a world beater looked decent in the games he played. And then the very next offseason they drafted RB that high, meanwhile the team was desperate for pass rushers as their leading DE only had 6 in 16 games. Bears could have had the first EDGE off the board but chose the 2nd RB.... outdated thinking. With that said, I seem to remember the premier rush talent being standup rushers and not true DEs, back in 2004/2005 i think there was a little less flexibility between hand in the dirt vs. stand up guys - maybe that scared off Lovie & Angelo who were usually happy to prioritize D over O.
 

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I personally never liked the Cedric Benson pick. It never made any sense to me.

Having said that, yes, the veterans should have been professionals and not tried to injure him or otherwise hurt the team.

Regardless of Benson, this happens on every team. Even teams that have won Superbowls. An arrogant rookie shows up and gets put in their place. Benson wasn't going to make the 2006 Bears Superbowl Champs. If I recall, he had a huge fumble in that game. And then sat out injured.
 

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Regardless of Benson, this happens on every team. Even teams that have won Superbowls. An arrogant rookie shows up and gets put in their place. Benson wasn't going to make the 2006 Bears Superbowl Champs. If I recall, he had a huge fumble in that game. And then sat out injured.
That Benson fumble was the game changer in that SB. I remember it was Bob Sanders drilling bends on in the hole (no homo).

It’s funny, had the coaches just given Jones the rock all game, they’d have a SB trophy. What a microcosm of the drafting Benson thing.

Sometimes I feel like coaches what to be more right that actually winning.
 

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Regardless of Benson, this happens on every team. Even teams that have won Superbowls. An arrogant rookie shows up and gets put in their place. Benson wasn't going to make the 2006 Bears Superbowl Champs. If I recall, he had a huge fumble in that game. And then sat out injured.

Every team has vets trying to injure top 5 picks? Which other teams have you heard this?

Found the old thread about it. Sorry but those guys were douchebags. Good players but douchebags. Wasnt just Benson either Hunter talked about how much of a douche Kreutz was (still is given his attack on Hoge) and Kreutz literally broke a fellow Bears' OL jaw. Links dont work anymore but it was Jay Glazer that reported how Urlacher, Brown and Briggs would try to hurt Benson in practice. Something Gabriel all bit confirmed.

I thought it was well known Kreutz was a bully. As for Urlacher and Mike Brown, I thought it was known they could be dicks too as I am pretty sure it was reported that they used to hit Benson a lot in practice because they liked or preferred Thomas Jones over him. I thought at one point one of them or Thomas Jones punched Benson or something that antoher time one of their hits lead to Benson getting a shoulder injury and missing the first 4 weeks of a season. Everyone sided with those guys over Benson because well they were good players and a lot of people hated Benson.

EDIT - Yep found mention of the old stories of Jones punching him out and Jay Glazer talking about how Bears defenders tried to intentionally injure him in practice.

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Every team has vets trying to injure top 5 picks? Which other teams have you heard this?

Every team has vets that puts rookies in their place regardless of where they are drafted dipshit.
 

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Every team has vets that puts rookies in their place regardless of where they are drafted dipshit.

Yeah no one argued that dipshit. There is a difference between putting a rookie in his place and trying to injure him. The Bears vets went too far.

This would be like saying coworkers always get into conflicts from time to time to justify dumbass Kreutz attacking Adam Hoge.

Kreutz was an out of control moron. Nothing has changed about him. He presided over a vet leadership that was harmful to the Bears in the long run and his latest incident is just proof he is still the same asshole he always was.
 

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Yeah no one argued that dipshit. There is a difference between putting a rookie in his place and trying to injure him. The Bears vets went too far.

This would be like saying coworkers always get into conflicts from time to time to justify dumbass Kreutz attacking Adam Hoge.

Nice straw man argument. Benson was and always will be a terrible pick by Lovie and Angelo. They had a much more capable running back that brought more to the table than the malcontent Benson(as a player). Drafting RB's that high, even back then, made little sense. Benson was a bust for the Bears. Could careless that Urlacher and Briggs put the hit squad on him for the way he acted coming into locker room. And I won't even reply to whatever the fuck you have to say. /end discussion.
 

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Regardless of Benson, this happens on every team. Even teams that have won Superbowls. An arrogant rookie shows up and gets put in their place. Benson wasn't going to make the 2006 Bears Superbowl Champs. If I recall, he had a huge fumble in that game. And then sat out injured.
he did. I still think the knee injury was bogus too. then the team had this bizarre premonition that Thomas Jones couldn't run the football anymore, at all, with no Benson, when they had Adrian Peterson who got zero carries because he was a mere special teams stud or something.

the 2006 Bears lost the Super Bowl because they were grossly mismanaged on the coaching side. it wasn't the lack of Mike Brown or Tommie Harris that doomed that game.
 

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Nice straw man argument. Benson was and always will be a terrible pick by Lovie and Angelo. They had a much more capable running back that brought more to the table than the malcontent Benson(as a player). Drafting RB's that high, even back then, made little sense. Benson was a bust for the Bears. Could careless that Urlacher and Briggs put the hit squad on him for the way he acted coming into locker room. And I won't even reply to whatever the fuck you have to say. /end discussion.

Lol talk about strawman. No one claimed he was a good pick. You are rambling on about shit that was never the topic.

I responded to a Gabriel vid where he talked about how Bears vets would go after Benson in practice. That was the topic not whether he was a good pick. I backed up what Gabriel said by pointing out it was reported how Urlacher and others would try and injure him in practice.
 

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Lol talk about strawman. No one claimed he was a good pick. You are rambling on about shit that was never the topic.

I responded to a Gabriel vid where he talked about how Bears vets would go after Benson in practice. That was the topic not whether he was a good pick. I backed up what Gabriel said by pointing out it was reported how Urlacher and others would try and injure him in practice.
didn't someone punch Benson in the face at practice once? I thought it was Kreutz but we were unable to find any evidence of this happening.
 

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