Chicagosports89
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No, it's a question. Can a question even be a prediction?
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I have no problem with his win total prediction for the lions this year, I think it is a game or two light, but oh well. On the other hand, his win prediction for the Bears has me thinking he was smoking crack.
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Holy shit I agree.
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It's hard to be under constant duress if you are getting rid of the ball quickly. And don't mistake no big names as having nobody to throw to. The Bears added one of the top WRs in terms of separation in the league last year (Pringle) and added the NCAA leader in separation in the draft (Jones).
Rodgers got rid of the ball faster in the last 2 seasons under LaFleur (and Getsy) than he had at any point in his career. His numbers obviously didn't suffer in back-to-back MVP seasons. Even in 2021 when he was missing 2 All Pro OL for most of the year. Sure, Fields doesn't have Devante Adams but I think you're overreacting a bit. There's been worse OLs and worse WR groups that have produced at the NFL level.
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I think you are wrong here. Having arguably the worst Ol and worst WR core simultaneously is never a recipe for success. You can argue that a good QB can overcome one, but not both. To think otherwise is just insane.
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OK, I'll give you that. That's a good point. But there's still no reason why Fields can't put up modestly good numbers this year.
3229 yards passing, 21 TDs, 2051 rushing, 13 TDs doesn't look like great offense. But those were the numbers of a 10-6 team just a few season ago.
The OL on that team = Dion Dawkins (decent), Quinton Spain (UDFA without a team right now), Mitch Morse, Jon Feliciano (mediocre), Cody Ford (failed tackle, now a backup OG)
The WRs on that team = John Brown (journeyman, not currently on a roster), Cole Beasley (not on a roster), Isaiah McKenzie (5'7").
Their TE only caught 28 passes too, and no RB went over 800 yards rushing, so it's not like they had elite production elsewhere.
The QB on that team = 2nd year, Josh Allen.
On paper the Bears OL and WR room is very similar to the 2019 Bills.
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So anyone who is pessimistic about the Bears deals in #FEARPORN
Anyone who is optimistic about the Bears is a smart man because everyone else thinks the Bears will suck.
Makes sense.
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The issue I have with your assertion, which is the same as many other dumbass Bears fans assertions, is the conflation of "bad" with "unknown".
No one wants to wait and see any more. And Dumbass fans are too fucking stupid to learn the lesson.
I've heard it all, here and on the radio.
* "Brian Urlacher? Who the fuck is he? Never heard of him. New Mexico? Is that even a major college? Looks like we have our next bust!"
* "Why in the FUCK would someone waste a pick on Devin Hester!?!? We already got our punt returner with the last pick in Danieal Manning!"
* "Dude, did you see that dude Gilbert? He jumped out of a fucking pool! He's going to be a stud!!!"
And on and on and on. No one wants to wait and see anymore. Everyone wants to rush and proclaim everything good or shit before even a snap of real football is played. No one learned the lesson that 2 of the people they shit on became all time greats, and now even they shit on the pool jumper, quietly hoping no one remembers them predicting amazing things for him....
Look - not going to argue that a lot of times, unknown is bad, but not every time, and usually less instead of more when the team is doing a total rebuild. Usually there are players that surprise and end up being decent pieces for the future. Doesn't mean the team is going to go on a roll and be a mega playoff team.
But shit, at least wait until training camp reports come out if nothing else. Let the rookies get their legs under them.
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That's an awful lot of criticism of football fans coming from someone who doesn't even watch the games.
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I understand the last paragraph is the fear. But there are mitigating circumstances.
Matt Nagy's offense was sooo bad, and what he asked the offensive line to do was sooo stupid, that it is entirely possible that the biggest upgrade to the offense...will be running a competent offense. That alone may make things better.
Not to mention, the Bears are taking a year one approach to Fields. It's not uncommon for a rookie QB to be surrounded by shit year one. And that's how Poles is treating this: as year one.
Finally, the Bears GM and Asst GM are former Offensive linemen, who both have a reputation for finding offensive line talent in the later rounds in the league.
There's enough there to wait and see before jumping straight to dick-ripping is all I am saying...
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Your restraint from dick ripping is because you can't find yours under the layers
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Yup. Poles probably is using year 1 to get the systems he wants in place, and then see how everyone performs in them, so he can get a real evaluation on the team needs.
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I hear ya but the OL and WR corps are still a work in progress for sure. I think scheme will help a lot. I also see the Bears targeting OL and WR hard with the ~150M in cap space and full complement of draft picks in 2023.
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Poles is going to be installing defense and offense? LOL okayyyyyy...
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Maybe I haven’t been around enough, but why all the hostility to a guy who is just posting his opinion? You may disagree and think he’s a homer and all that, but being a homer is allowed. Has he in the past insulted posters personally here a lot, and thats why he’s getting the hostility? Genuine question, not trying to specifically defend anyones opinion.
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You think it’s likely to die doing donuts and call someone else a dumbass? Jesus, take the stick out of your ass.
Donuts in a car. Not barrel rolls in a bi-plane.
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Yep. If Fields proves he's the guy......the Bears go into next season with a pair of CBs, a SS, Roquan at LB (re-signed), the top 3 DEs still under contract on defense. Then if Velus and Jenkins are solid, and maybe he finds a RG out of the young guys....Poles goes into the offseason focused on a starting LG (to replace Whitehair) and 3-tech in free agency, and then a #1 WR and LT early in the draft, while continuing to add role players and depth at TE, OL, WR, and every position on D.
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Can you point to examples of people dying as a result of doing donuts?
Did this search and it turned up people outside being injured. Cant find a case where the people in the car were hurt.
