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Frazer kicked out by NYY. Will he make it past the Vulture culture on Waveland?
What a difference a year makes. Last offseason, you were saying how the Yankees couldn’t sign Schwarber because they had Frazier

now this offseason, Frazier is dumped and Kyle is a hot name on the market
 

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What a difference a year makes. Last offseason, you were saying how the Yankees couldn’t sign Schwarber because they had Frazier

now this offseason, Frazier is dumped and Kyle is a hot name on the market
How fast things change. Frazer is worth a tire kick. RF platoon with Heyward.
 

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How fast things change. Frazer is worth a tire kick. RF platoon with Heyward.
That could be a good idea, I agree. Due to next to nothing cost. That would be if they miss out on Schwarber…again. Always good to have back up plans
 

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He got $11 mill/yr
Kinda glad the cardinals got him in a way. I don’t think he’s going to be that good, even if he stays healthy…which is a big if
 

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Kinda glad the cardinals got him in a way. I don’t think he’s going to be that good, even if he stays healthy…which is a big if
Sinkerballer w 3.32 era heading to team with great infield D.
 

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He got $11 mill/yr

For Cubs. Cards are in a better situation going in.

I'm at the point of believing that the Cubs will have a cast off rotation. They are better off staying in house in that case.

Hendricks
Miley
Mills
Steel
Thompson

Alozay close.
AAA
Kilian
Marquez
Abbott

AA
Herz
Wicks

Miley as a 1 year float is smart. They need to replace innings lost. Anything more would have to be a upgrade.
 

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Sinkerballer w 3.32 era heading to team with great infield D.
That’s fair. If he can replicate it and stay healthy. Certainly worth the risk for the Cards in their position. Cubs giving him 4 years, not so much
 

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That’s fair. If he can replicate it and stay healthy. Certainly worth the risk for the Cards in their position. Cubs giving him 4 years, not so much

Cubs would have to be in a window. I see that as equal to Edwin Jackson. Not the result but the reasoning behind it. Not in a window. Just a innings filler while the team reorganizes.

Jed targeted Lester after Jake and Kyle made the team. Lester cemented a budding rotation.

Right now we have 3 pitchers that are in innings filler situations. None of the 3 are top talents. The plus is both Thompson and Steel have mid 90's velocity so they have potential. Mills lacks that

This time next year the Cubs have Kilian, Marquez with Wicks and Herz in Iowa. That is when you look at a ace and let the youth sort itself behind him
 

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Cubs in on Stroman. Gray likely to sign before lockout (no word of cubs actually in on him).
 

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Sinkerballer w 3.32 era heading to team with great infield D.
Plus the Cardinals have a way of turning chicken shit into chicken salad....coaching? Luck? Whatever....it happens. Just look at Heyward.
 

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Super Two Status Set At 2.116 Years Of Service

By TC Zencka | November 27, 2021 at 1:31pm CDT

This year’s Super Two cutoff point has been set at precisely two years and 116 days of service, MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes has learned. This marker will affect the financial value for players with between two and three years of service time.
For example, Yordan Alvarez, with two years and 113 days of service time, will just miss the cutoff, meaning the Astros slugger will not be eligible for arbitration until next offseason. On the other hand, Brewers infielder Luis Urias has two years and 120 days of service time, so he qualifies as a Super Two player and will head to arbitration for the first of four trips this winter.
Broadly, Super Two designation is one of the innumerable quirks to the ever-confounding (current) arbitration system. For the unfamiliar, Major League players earn “service time” for every day spent on an MLB roster. One year of MLB service is defined as 172 days, despite the fact that there are more days than that in the regular season.
Upon reaching three years of service time, all players become eligible for salary arbitration. Prior to that point, teams are effectively able to set (most) player salaries at any rate they wish, so long as it is north of the league minimum. Many teams have formulas they use to determine pre-arbitration salaries, and it’s quite rare for pre-arb players to earn even $1MM, barring a long-term extension. Arbitration is the first point at which players and their agents can begin negotiating with teams regarding their salary, though arbitration prices still typically fall shy of open-market value.
The “Super Two” wrinkle further complicates matters. The top 22 percent of players (in terms of total service time) with between two and three years of service also are considered eligible for arbitration and termed “Super Two” players. Any player who falls into that service bucket and spent at least 86 days of the preceding season on a 25-man roster or the Major League injured list become eligible a year early and then go through the arbitration process four times.
That fourth arb-eligible year puts a player in line for some extra salary immediately, and potentially millions more in earnings as their salaries continue to escalate through the arbitration process. Of course, since teams’ manipulation of service time has been such a point of contention for the players’ union, it remains to be seen if the current Super Two system will remain in place through the next round of Collective Bargaining Agreement talks.
For comparison’s sake, here are the Super Two cutoff points for the last 12 years….
  • 2020: 2.125
  • 2019: 2.115
  • 2018: 2.134
  • 2017: 2.123
  • 2016: 2.131
  • 2015: 2.130
  • 2014: 2.133
  • 2013: 2.122
  • 2012: 2.140
  • 2011: 2.146
  • 2010: 2.122
  • 2009: 2.139
 

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Seager pushes Hoerner into flex.
Rodon and Stroman push Azolay, Steel and Thompson into the pen.

Mills has the edge over the rest for 5th inning work.

Miley drops off next year giving Marquez a full year in the minors to condition his arm post injury.

This turns 2022 into 2015 again with 2 players pending going forward.

Over all this would be a solid team with 2 starters in the pen for rotation injury or extra off days. Plus they have Abbott and Kilian both ready to bump Mills out of a job.
 

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Gimme Schwarber, Taylor, and Villar for position players. Save the big money contracts for another year

Schwarber gives you a middle of the lineup left handed bat

Taylor gives you a lead off guy that can play CF(not great defensively but adequate)

Villar gives you a Utility guy that can play 2nd, SS, or 3B and has speed. Also, gives cubs insurance in case Hoerner gets hurt or struggles at SS

And if the Cubs end up sucking next year, all 3 can be flipped at the deadline
 

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