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A higher viral load? What source?
Bizzaro news located in opposite world. They also raise a lot of sheep.

If vaxxed people get a high load, which is not uncommon with Delta, they will replicate enough for a few days until they produce enough antibodies to clear the disease. There's always a lag but in this case, Delta is so virulent and focused on the respiratory system that vaxxed people can be a short term carrier. It's like any other virus but in this case replication and inability to physically clear it creates a genuine infection risk until your antibodies wake up and keep you from getting very ill, if at all. Like all viruses it will depend on the individual, resistance/active antibodies present at the time of potential infection and initial viral load but keeping virtually everyone that isn't immune compromised out of the hospital and off a respirator is a great thing.
 
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So Vax players only have to test every 2 weeks despite studies showing that they get the delta variant at a similar or higher rate than the unvaccinated and have a higher viral load of the virus?

They're basically super spreaders

#science
Link please
 

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I’ve heard from a few sources that the Delta variant is far more transmissible, but have far less severe health consequences, at least for people under 50. It seems it is like COVID-19, in that it is especially dangerous for the elderly and those with serious health conditions. Not sure if that is true tho.

I know some people who haven’t gotten the vaccine, not because they are against vaccines, but because it is so new and hasn’t been approved by the FDA yet.
 

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I’ve heard from a few sources that the Delta variant is far more transmissible, but have far less severe health consequences, at least for people under 50. It seems it is like COVID-19, in that it is especially dangerous for the elderly and those with serious health conditions. Not sure if that is true tho.

I know some people who haven’t gotten the vaccine, not because they are against vaccines, but because it is so new and hasn’t been approved by the FDA yet.
If they’re vaccinated yes
 

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I’ve heard from a few sources that the Delta variant is far more transmissible, but have far less severe health consequences, at least for people under 50. It seems it is like COVID-19, in that it is especially dangerous for the elderly and those with serious health conditions. Not sure if that is true tho.

I know some people who haven’t gotten the vaccine, not because they are against vaccines, but because it is so new and hasn’t been approved by the FDA yet.
The delta variant is covid-19
 

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So Vax players only have to test every 2 weeks despite studies showing that they get the delta variant at a similar or higher rate than the unvaccinated and have a higher viral load of the virus?

They're basically super spreaders

#science
Correct. I know 2 people who are fully vaccinated and got the delta. They should just test everyone every day they are at the facility.
 

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A higher viral load? What source?
He doesn't have a source. He makes a lot of things up or just repeats made up stuff. His brain and his dick are the size of a pencil eraser.
 

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Not sure you can deny people medical treatment because of that
But they can certainly fall back on the health workers' priorities.

Health workers have always had to prioritize who gets their limited resources. Young patients get priority over senior citizens. The donor heart goes to the otherwise healthy patient over the drug user. The injured police officer gets priority over the criminal who shot him.

Why shouldn't someone who tried to prevent catching covid get priority over someone who thought that covid was fake news, didn't take any precautions, didn't take the vaccine and harassed everyone else for taking precautions and the vaccine?
 

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Not sure you can deny people medical treatment because of that
No but you sure can prioritize. Finger boo boo takes precedence over an ignorant fuck dying because he thought they were going to implant a chip in him. End of line please. We will get to you in a week or two.
 

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But they can certainly fall back on the health workers' priorities.

Health workers have always had to prioritize who gets their limited resources. Young patients get priority over senior citizens. The donor heart goes to the otherwise healthy patient over the drug user. The injured police officer gets priority over the criminal who shot him.

Why shouldn't someone who tried to prevent catching covid get priority over someone who thought that covid was fake news, didn't take any precautions, didn't take the vaccine and harassed everyone else for taking precautions and the vaccine?
I think you’re getting into murky territory here. The healthcare system is burdened, no doubt, but I think it’s on a case by case basis and what hospital you’re in.

For example, what about someone who didn’t get the vaccine but has paid for health insurance for years vs someone who did and has never had health insurance despite being able to pay for it? How about people who can’t pay for health insurance and 1 got the vaccine and one didn’t (for whatever reason)?

I don’t think it is as simple as you’re making it sound.
 

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No but you sure can prioritize. Finger boo boo takes precedence over an ignorant fuck dying because he thought they were going to implant a chip in him. End of line please. We will get to you in a week or two.
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I’ve heard from a few sources that the Delta variant is far more transmissible, but have far less severe health consequences, at least for people under 50. It seems it is like COVID-19, in that it is especially dangerous for the elderly and those with serious health conditions. Not sure if that is true tho.

I know some people who haven’t gotten the vaccine, not because they are against vaccines, but because it is so new and hasn’t been approved by the FDA yet.

An analysis of 38,805 sequenced cases in England revealed that the Delta variant was associated with a 2.61 times higher risk of hospitalisation within 14 days of specimen date than the Alpha variant. There was a 1.67 times higher risk of A&E care within 14 days. These figures take into account factors such as age, sex, ethnicity, area of residence and vaccination status. Data from Scotland supported the findings, also pointing to a more than twofold higher risk of hospitalisation for those infected with the Delta variant compared with the Alpha variant.
 

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An analysis of 38,805 sequenced cases in England revealed that the Delta variant was associated with a 2.61 times higher risk of hospitalisation within 14 days of specimen date than the Alpha variant. There was a 1.67 times higher risk of A&E care within 14 days. These figures take into account factors such as age, sex, ethnicity, area of residence and vaccination status. Data from Scotland supported the findings, also pointing to a more than twofold higher risk of hospitalisation for those infected with the Delta variant compared with the Alpha variant.
How many fatalities? I heard about a study in Europe but it may have been different. I’m going off memory here but I recall it saying there were zero fatalities from within a pretty big age group.
 

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How many fatalities? I heard about a study in Europe but it may have been different. I’m going off memory here but I recall it saying there were zero fatalities from within a pretty big age group.
Beats me but they have better survival treatments now and you need to remember that at least in the US, the vast majority of higher risk groups are vaccinated as are many that will test positive without symptoms. All evidence is that Delta is likely more deadly under the same circumstances as alpha. Being 1/2 again as virulent will do that. I sure don't want to need a hospital. That's a genuine fail in my book.

If you really want to know about the virus and why just making sure you have a good natural immune system is a fail, read this: How the coronavirus infects cells — and why Delta is so dangerous
 
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He doesn't have a source. He makes a lot of things up or just repeats made up stuff. His brain and his dick are the size of a pencil eraser.
The source would be your own hero, Covid vax investor/Big Pharma dick sucker, Faucci.


As of Thursday, 882 people were tied to the Provincetown outbreak. Among those living in Massachusetts, 74% of them were fully immunized, yet officials said the vast majority were also reporting symptoms. Seven people were reported hospitalized.

When a vaccinated person gets infected with delta -- called a "breakthrough infection" -- "the level of virus in their nasopharynx is about 1,000 times higher than with the alpha variant," Fauci said in an interview Wednesday with MSNBC.


Hard to believe you vaxxed people could get any dumber, but then you do. Keep kneeling to your oppressors, mongs!
 

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The source would be your own hero, Covid vax investor/Big Pharma dick sucker, Faucci.


As of Thursday, 882 people were tied to the Provincetown outbreak. Among those living in Massachusetts, 74% of them were fully immunized, yet officials said the vast majority were also reporting symptoms. Seven people were reported hospitalized.

When a vaccinated person gets infected with delta -- called a "breakthrough infection" -- "the level of virus in their nasopharynx is about 1,000 times higher than with the alpha variant," Fauci said in an interview Wednesday with MSNBC.


Hard to believe you vaxxed people could get any dumber, but then you do. Keep kneeling to your oppressors, mongs!
To be fair, Fauci has been on every side of and wrong on every issue, and people still act like he’s the all-knowing.

Doesnt help he has been a staunch defender of gain-of-function for years, and approved funding of that research done in the Wuhan lab (jury is still out on whether he approved funding of the COVID research.

Guy is a corrupt clown. That being said, all this shit is crazy and worrisome. Like a watered -down version of the movie 12 Monkeys.
 

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