Pagano & Next Year

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If we go to playoffs and regardless of what happens in playoffs.

I would be ok with Trubisky being back on a short 2 year deal

I would be fine with Nagy being back

I could go either way on Pace but lean to him being replaced.

CHUCK PAGANO CANNOT come back!
He absolutely sucks as a defensive coordinator and his scheme absolutely blows.
 

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If we go to playoffs and regardless of what happens in playoffs.

I would be ok with Trubisky being back on a short 2 year deal

I would be fine with Nagy being back

I could go either way on Pace but lean to him being replaced.

CHUCK PAGANO CANNOT come back!
He absolutely sucks as a defensive coordinator and his scheme absolutely blows.

Scheme? Base 3-4 cover 2 90% of the game?
 

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Scheme? Base 3-4 cover 2 90% of the game?

I do not mean 3-4. Maybe scheme is the wrong terminology..........the bend dont break and the lack of aggression is the issue.
He has turned aggressive players into a sit back and bend dont break players
 

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Remember when Vic Fargo came to Chicago with no talent and he was called a bust then he got talent and he was only good because the talent but now he's a legend in Chicago.

Shut up and be patient things don't happen overnight. Stop looking for instant gratification.
 

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Remember when Vic Fargo came to Chicago with no talent and he was called a bust then he got talent and he was only good because the talent but now he's a legend in Chicago.

Shut up and be patient things don't happen overnight. Stop looking for instant gratification.

WTF
if your post is serious then you sir are an idiot.
If not, then I'm missing the sarcasm
 

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Remember when Vic Fargo came to Chicago with no talent and he was called a bust then he got talent and he was only good because the talent but now he's a legend in Chicago.

Shut up and be patient things don't happen overnight. Stop looking for instant gratification.
Pagano has the talent and its clear to anyone watching this defense has underperformed this season. I can see giving Pagano another year if thats what you mean but i personally have seen enough of Pagano.
 

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If we go to playoffs and regardless of what happens in playoffs.

I would be ok with Trubisky being back on a short 2 year deal

I would be fine with Nagy being back

I could go either way on Pace but lean to him being replaced.

CHUCK PAGANO CANNOT come back!
He absolutely sucks as a defensive coordinator and his scheme absolutely blows.
I feel the same way. Ive been saying this.
 

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WTF
if your post is serious then you sir are an idiot.
If not, then I'm missing the sarcasm

Honest I can bump the posts from when Fanwood came to Chicago from the 49ers you guys called him overrated and trash.
 

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I wouldnt mind both Nagy and Pagano gone, but I dont see how you can argue for Nagy deserving to be safe and only firing Pagano when Pagano handed Nagy and the Bears several games that they should have won. Pagano held the Colts and Vikings (1st game) below 20 points and held the Saints to 23 points in regulation and we lost all 3 of those games. Pagano is not the reason why we are 8-7, there have been enough good defensive performances this season for the team to have 10 wins by now. Out of 15 games played, defense has had a few bad games but enough good games to get you 10 wins and yet we are barely .500.

The Bears should be solidly in the playoffs.

Also Nagy was brought in to be an offensive guru, yet the offense only got better when he gave up playing calling so what is Nagy's purpose on the team? Nagy arguably is the reason why we are .500,
 

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Pagano isn't as much of an issue as some of you people think he is....

the run game would be bad no matter who we got as a DC because goldman is out. We don't really have a nose tackle.....

In the pass game, he's dealt with one of the worst safeties in the league this year(Eddie Jackson), and one of the worst slot cb's in the league(Skrine), all the while having some of the least pressures in the league thanks to a terrible signing of robert quinn and having zero good pass rushing depth really.

You can blame the coaches, but at some point, someone besides mack/fuller/quan have to ball out on that defense.

Eddie Jackson has been terrible, outside of JJ and fuller we have no corners really. There is zero pass rush. We cant stop the run.

Its not really scheme guys...
 

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Remember when Vic Fargo came to Chicago with no talent and he was called a bust then he got talent and he was only good because the talent but now he's a legend in Chicago.

Shut up and be patient things don't happen overnight. Stop looking for instant gratification.
This made no sense
 

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Sure you could ask him to blitz more, but thats not going to work with the shitty CB's we have and eddie playing like a scrub.

Danny T can't cover either.
 

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This made no sense

Nah, it makes sense.

The better question is did Vic make that talent? Jackson has seemingly dropped to being terrible. We went from having the best slot CB in the league to the worst. Went from having 4 good ILB's to having one.

Mack is also having the worst season of his career pressure wise, so that doesn't help.
 

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I think Jackson is a really interesting case study of why Pagano should be gone for 2021. Pagano is supposed to be a secondary specialist. The majority of his coaching career was being a secondary coach. He was only a DC for 1 year in Baltimore with a ridiculous amount of talent on that defense before getting the HC gig in Indy.

So, he comes here with actually not a lot of experience as an actual DC but a ton of experience coaching defensive backs. He has managed to take an All-Pro safety and turn him into just another guy. Now, I am not saying that Eddie himself has no blame, but this defensive coaching staff has not really schemed their players into getting the most out of them.
 

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Honest question, did Mack play today. I didn’t see him at all.
 

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