Spitta Andretti
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How is it the Bears are the ones not negotiating in good faith?
Without a certified agent, Smith has had to directly negotiate with the Bears on his own, as advisors aren’t permitted to engage on his behalf. Such situations aren’t common but do occur in the NFL. Texans offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil negotiated a three-year, $66-million contract extension in 2020 with the help of Omni, who was quoted on the record in a 2021 feature by Complex. Cardinals star receiver DeAndre Hopkins worked out a two-year, $54.5-million deal on his own behalf in 2020, and Rams veteran linebacker Bobby Wagner, who has worked with LifeLine Financial Group, was the point man on the five-year, $50-million deal he reached with the team in April. Ravens star quarterback Lamar Jackson, the 2019 NFL MVP, is working without an agent as he looks to land a record-breaking deal.
“Shady as hell,” one league source said of Omni's practices.
It's just not smart on Roquan's part. IDK if it's him just being cheap or what. SOmeone in the know was being nterviewed about this and said the market for good agents is so competitive that many agents charge as low as 1%. Thats nothing when you're talking about a 80-100 million dollar contract. I don't think Roquan liked what he heard in the meetings, something an agent would hve softened the words to Roquan. Roquan was butt hurt about hearing the truth. There is no doubt in my mind that if he had an agent, this deall would have been done.
He isn’t a true bear and possibly a moron if he doesn’t take whatever contract they shove in his faceYeah I am sure it is shady as hell from the perspective of NFL teams but it appears he has helped at least 2 players (Tunsil & Wagner) negotiate deals without an agent.
If the Bears were not offering what he wanted then why do you think the deal would have gotten done? Unless you are saying an agent would have gotten the Bears to increase their offer I don't see an agent convincing him to take a deal Quan does not like. Agents work for the client not the other way around. If an agent tried to push Quan to accept a deal he did not like, Quan would just fire them.
Roquan was more pissed of about the deescalators and it being back loaded. The total of the deal from everything I have heard was quite generous. That combined with Roquan not being able to handle negative things being said about him is what killed these negotiations. No doubt that with an agent this would have gotten done.Yeah I am sure it is shady as hell from the perspective of NFL teams but it appears he has helped at least 2 players (Tunsil & Wagner) negotiate deals without an agent.
If the Bears were not offering what he wanted then why do you think the deal would have gotten done? Unless you are saying an agent would have gotten the Bears to increase their offer I don't see an agent convincing him to take a deal Quan does not like. Agents work for the client not the other way around. If an agent tried to push Quan to accept a deal he did not like, Quan would just fire them.
Its hard to negotiate with a layperson opposed to a professional. With a professional, there is floor of negotiations that you don't even have to talk about and that is eradicated when a layperson attempts to negotiate.Yeah I am sure it is shady as hell from the perspective of NFL teams but it appears he has helped at least 2 players (Tunsil & Wagner) negotiate deals without an agent.
Roquan was more pissed of about the deescalators and it being back loaded. The total of the deal from everything I have heard was quite generous. That combined with Roquan not being able to handle negative things being said about him is what killed these negotiations. No doubt that with an agent this would have gotten done.
Its hard to negotiate with a layperson opposed to a professional. With a professional, there is floor of negotiations that you don't even have to talk about and that is eradicated when a layperson attempts to negotiate.
The NFLPA has agreed upon qualifications for agents. When an unqualified person tries to tiptoe around these qualifications it is always trouble. And many times the client does not even understand how unqualified their "agent" is to represent their interests.
Pretty sure it was just Tunsil. Article says Bobby Wagner had worked with lifeline before but he was the point man on his own contract, not Omni.Was the agent going to get the backloading and deescalators removed? If so how?
But in this case the layperson apparently already helped 2 other players get deals.
This is simple. Bears did not meet his asking price. An agent wasnt going to fix that.
Pretty sure it was just Tunsil. Article says Bobby Wagner had worked with lifeline before but he was the point man on his own contract, not Omni.
I appreciate you always taking the contrarian side and the "f. the man" mentality. It always good to see the other side.But in this case the layperson apparently already helped 2 other players get deals.
This is simple. Bears did not meet his asking price. An agent wasnt going to fix that.
A) No one knows factually if any of the backload /de-escalating components actually existed and if so to what degree. And calm heads can always work to solutions that benefit both parties.Was the agent going to get the backloading and deescalators removed? If so how?
But in this case the layperson apparently already helped 2 other players get deals.
This is simple. Bears did not meet his asking price. An agent wasnt going to fix that.
His value will go up in line with the cap going up. Take the percentage when Leonard got his deal to next years cap and add that to Leonard deal so it would prob look something like that.Say Roquan Smith balls out this season, how much does anyone imagine he gains in value?
Is he worth $25M/yr?
If so, as the Bears you simply franchise him at $18.5M and again the next season for $22M.
Does he sign an extension forShaq Leonard #'s at $19.7/season?
If so was it worth not having an extra $20M earning more money for a yr while risking career altering injury?
Barring a complete lowball offer at around $14-15M, which would be impossible unless Poles completely lied to the press, I see no upside to Smith carrying this ove for another season.