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I see...so, basically, the whole team has regressed from last year. The whole team. Yet, Nagy isn't responsible for any of it.
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I swear..Nagy snuck into the Vikings crew yesterday and called their plays for the entire game..They were the exact same plays he called for the Bears all year, with the same results. He lost!
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Vikings O did resemble the Bears. McFarland seemed critical of some of the playcalling as well.
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When they ran that double reverse for an incomplete pass..I laughed out loud and shouted...NAGY!!
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Does it look great with Chase. How many points did we score?
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This is factually inaccurate. The same deep safety that ends up coming over to Wimms would also be in position to come over top og Miller.
ARob is the correct read here because the other deep guy has committed to Wims but wrong to say everyone but Wimms is open.
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As to the OP, Nagy gets one year to try and fix his mess. Trubs gets competition.
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Agreed. I would give Nagy a year but I would force a new OC on him and very strongly suggest he give up play calling but not necessarily game planning. If he insists on calling his own plays and we get another shit show he won't last the year.
And MT gets some real competition. Mariotta, Newton, Bridgewater, don't care. Someone with some starting QB experience. Draft a QB in 21 but I am not sure how I feel about Pace making another QB decision.
And MT gets some real competition. Mariotta, Newton, Bridgewater, don't care. Someone with some starting QB experience. Draft a QB in 21 but I am not sure how I feel about Pace making another QB decision.
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They didn't score much with Chase, but the offense looked easier on the eyes? Idk. Lol. To me it just looks like a functional offense when Chase is in there and the ball is spread around. I also know that Chase didn't really score much when he was in there. Idk. Either way, I'm in agreement with you that Nagy is a problem but Mitch also makes him look bad sometime.
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Can disagree on relative weights of blame but they all a problem IMO.
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Can someone show me an offense that succeeds with consistently horrible play calling and one of the worst olines in the league...
closest thing would be Green Bay a couple years back, so unless you have a spare Aaron Rodgers hanging around the playcalling and oline needs to improve
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Trubisky's inconsistency is a problem but the head coach is doing him no favors.
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Is anyone arguing that the Oline and play calling don’t need to improve? I’m not. I just think Mitch is problem number one. Oline number two. TE number three. And then Nagy.
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I have seen Trubisky run out of bound behind the line of scrimage so many times this year. Does he even know the rules of football? I find my self screaming at the TV when he does this. He doesn't even know he can throw the ball away before he steps out of bound 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
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Nagy's RPO is completely worthless. His running scheme is a completely joke to watch on tape and his QB isn't a legitimate running threat. So what exactly is the point of running this scheme?
If I'm the Bears ownership and Nagy isn't willing to put his ego and garbage RPO aside he's gone.
If Nagy had proved anything this year it's that he has not capable of being both the HC and OC.
This team needs an actual OC that will run an offense that actually fits the talent we have and a HC that actually manages the entire team and game.
If I'm the Bears ownership and Nagy isn't willing to put his ego and garbage RPO aside he's gone.
If Nagy had proved anything this year it's that he has not capable of being both the HC and OC.
This team needs an actual OC that will run an offense that actually fits the talent we have and a HC that actually manages the entire team and game.
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I've seen Mitch look like one of the best QBs in the league, when there is a running game and when Nagy decided to call back to line play action pass. I think Trubisky is still growing. I don't think Nagy is helping him as much as he could be.
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Mitch is fools gold. He can look VERY good for a game or two and against bad teams. He’s simply shown zero consistency over his career and shows no signs of growing. Those brief flashes of talent are why he was drafted #2 and why you’ll always be disappointed long term with him.
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Can you show me an offense that succeeds with consistently horrible play calling, one of the worst olines in the league, and one of the worst QBs in the NFL?
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yes when you see those flashes of brilliance, it shows you he's capable of doing it. It's up to the coaching staff to develop him so those flashes of brilliance happen more often. That's actually more an indictment of the coaching staff and Pace imo. They drafted him knowing full well that he needed more time than the other QBs to develop. They should have given him a QB coach and offensive guru who could develop him. We see Trubisky play much better in a Bills like offense, yet the coach refuses to consistently run an offense that helps his QB. Maybe slowly he will develop to becoming a great pocket passer like Brees/Wilson/Brady. None of these 3 QBs started on fire. They slowly got better.
Personally, I don't think Trubisky is ready right now. That's why I don't think he is the QB for a Nagy offense on a team that's in "win now" mode. Misses so many open receivers even when he has time to throw. Will he ever get better to the point where he can be average, depends on how he develops. If the Bears want to salvage this, Nagy should completely change his offense and call plays accordingly to help Trubisky and they need to get some QB guru in the offseason to help Trubisky develop faster. He needs to stop training with Goff in the offseason.
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I am not absolving Trubisky, but a lot of people are saying its mostly his fault, which I disagree.
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