So we traded the #33 pick for Claypool?

[Forty-six]

This is definitely a give it another year situation. Claypool will have an off season to work with Fields and immerse himself in the playbook. Claypool has all of the physical tools you'd want in a receiver. The Bears will have a better offensive line next year which will greatly help the passing game. It's too early to tell if this trade was a bust or not. We'll know the answer by the end of next season.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Remember the year Claypool, Hopkins, and Adams all got traded for a 20-40 draft pick?

 

[Username]

Steelers are a good org and let go of Clay-Stool for a reason. Poles took a chance and got fleeced. Greenbay laughs at us once again.

 

[Montucky]

It's weird how for some people, to say anything critical of someone is to admit they're terrible or something.

Most of us can honestly say, "Yeah, this person screwed up this thing" without automatically jumping to them being terrible at their job.

As far as Poles, we just don't know yet. But make no mistake, the Claypool stuff is in the "con" category right now. I'm also discouraged that the Bears didn't acquire anyone (other than probably Brisker) last offseason who we can look at now and say, "Man we've really got ourselves a major value here that's really going to work out." If this was supposed to be a development year, where's the development?

That said, I'm content to continue to sit back, wait and watch. I see good, and I see bad. But there's nothing wrong about being honest about a move looking like shit. And the Claypool move looks like shit.

Being in cap hell with no first round pick was a brutal way for Ryan Poles to start off his first year. Barring some draft luck (which he did wind up getting a little bit with Braxton Jones) there just was no way of acquiring that type of major value player. I can't really fault him for that, the Bears were in a horrible position this time last year.

But I was hoping it would have taught Poles a lesson about dealing away draft capital. Then he went and made just the dumbest trade, it really does not bode well at all.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

Calvin Ridley is who we should have traded for.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

That's something you worry about later. Having guys ball out and thus having decisions to make on contracts is a symptom of a winning football team. Would you prefer Claypool doesn't ball out so we can save some extra cash to go along with a big hole at WR? I'm confused here.

Bold letters up there!!!!!!

 

[hyatt151]

Pickens

Watson caught 41 for 611

 

[hyatt151]

Correct. One guy with 801 yards out of 7 WRs taken in 2nd. So 14% success rate.

Meanwhile Claypool has done that 2 out of 3 years so 66% success rate.

So which WR drafted in 2nd round are you guaranteeing will get 800 yards?

0 for 1 as a Bear

 

[hyatt151]

Like who? That’s fine if that’s your belief, but it’s unfounded. A legit #1 costs much more than that…so which much better #2 WR could the Bears have traded for ?

the 33rd pick this year is equivalent to a 1st rounder in past years since the Dolphins don't have a 1st round pick this year

 

[hyatt151]

Why are there so many crybabies on this board?
If we would have won a few more games and it was the 40th pick you wouldn't have made this thread?
And Poles should have had the same fore vision?

Stop bleeding. We have the 1st overall pick and the most cap room maybe ever. Have you ever seen a WR traded to a new team mid-season and excel? Outside of QB its the position that takes the most time to settle into and master the offense.

actually that's the center position

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Calvin Ridley is who we should have traded for.

For sure. Trading for an indefinitely suspended player who had to step away from football for mental health reasons even prior to that is a recipe for success.

 

[Da Coach]

Jesus this trade was so bad it doesn't even seem like it could be real. Poles scares the shit out of me as a GM with the #1 pick

 

[Montucky]

Correct. One guy with 801 yards out of 7 WRs taken in 2nd. So 14% success rate.

Meanwhile Claypool has done that 2 out of 3 years so 66% success rate.

So which WR drafted in 2nd round are you guaranteeing will get 800 yards?

The problem is if Chase Claypool does that again next season you'll have to pay him or watch him walk, while the thirty-second overall pick is cheap for the next four years. I also don't think its too controversial to believe Claypool's best NFL play is behind him. Look at it this way, what would the Steelers be willing to give up to get Claypool back? Definitely would be a lot less valuable than the top of the second round.

And looking at it in a vacuum like this is silly. The Bears with the thirty-second overall pick are just all-around much more flexible to pursue wide receivers with other assets that may be a better fit than just that pick.

 

[Montucky]

For sure. Trading for an indefinitely suspended player who had to step away from football for mental health reasons even prior to that is a recipe for success.

You're banking on a bounceback candidate either way. Ridley probably would've come significantly cheaper.

 

[remydat]

The problem is if Chase Claypool does that again next season you'll have to pay him or watch him walk, while the thirty-second overall pick is cheap for the next four years. I also don't think its too controversial to believe Claypool's best NFL play is behind him. Look at it this way, what would the Steelers be willing to give up to get Claypool back? Definitely would be a lot less valuable than the top of the second round.

And looking at it in a vacuum like this is silly. The Bears with the thirty-second overall pick are just all-around much more flexible to pursue wide receivers with other assets that may be a better fit than just that pick.

Yeah this is just a rehash of the same old arguments which is pointless. Sometimes you dont get what you want. He traded for Claypool. The milk has been spilt and we will see how he performs this year.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

the 33rd pick this year is equivalent to a 1st rounder in past years since the Dolphins don't have a 1st round pick this year

Yeah but our third round pick is really a second now!!!

 

[hyatt151]

Yeah but our third round pick is really a second now!!!

TRUE, question is which pick would you rather have

 

[Wild_x_Card]

You're banking on a bounceback candidate either way. Ridley probably would've come significantly cheaper.

He's already be been traded, the Jags are on the hook to pick up his 5th year option.

They gave up a 5th that has no strings attached. They also gave up:

a 4th if Calvin Ridley is on the roster.

It goes to a 3rd if Ridley reaches certain incentives.

And it becomes a 2nd if the Jaguars sign Ridley to a contract extension.


To summarize, if he "bounces back" it will cost the jags a 2nd and a 5th. Certainly not significantly cheaper.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

You're banking on a bounceback candidate either way. Ridley probably would've come significantly cheaper.

He did come significantly cheaper. It's not a maybe.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

He did come significantly cheaper. It's not a maybe.

Read above, that has yet to be determined.