Some pretty bad comparisons.

[airtime143]

Yeah fields fanboys, we get it. This team is not fantastic. Lots of hurdles to overcome.
But then again, every rookie that goes to a shit team has the same issues.

I looked back at some of the fringe talent at QB that has kicked around the league the last couple years to see if maybe we could compare fields in a favorable light to other rookies with high potential, and maybe get some hope.
the results are not good.

On the plus side, over the first 16 games, Fields edged out Blaine Gabbert.
However, it gets pretty worrisome after that.

Here are the results of Justins first 16 starts-

Justin Fields Passing Statistics for Career Games 2021 to 2022​

	Games	Passing		Passing
Year	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD
2021-2022	CHI	18	16	4-12-0	222	385	57.7	2739	11	2.9	15	3.9	64	7.1	5.9	12.3	152.2	73.1		59	396	13.3	5.28	4.25
Average	9	8		111	192.5		1369.5	5.5		7.5									29.5	198

Here are the first 16 starts of guys i figured had just as bad a situation as Fields walked in to...

Taylor Heinicke Passing Statistics for Career Games 2017 to 2021​

	Games	Passing		Passing
Year	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD
2017-2021	HTX,CAR,WAS	24	16	7-9-0	369	571	64.6	3886	22	3.9	18	3.2	73	6.8	6.2	10.5	161.9	84.0		42	318	6.9	5.82	5.22
Average	6	4		92.3	142.8		971.5	5.5		4.5									10.5	79.5
Per 17 Games	17	11		261	404		2753	16		13									30	225

Sam Darnold Gamelogs for Career Games 1 to 16​

	Games	Passing	Rushing	Scoring	Fumbles
Year	Tm	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Inc	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	Sk	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD	TD	Pts	Fmb	FL	FF	FR	Yds	TD
2018-2019	NYJ	16	16	301	519	218	58.00	3464	20	20	75.0	37	249	6.67	5.71	52	138	2.65	1	1	6	7	3	0	2	-14	0
Per Game Average	18.8	32.4	13.6		216.5	1.3	1.3		2.3	15.6			3.3	8.6		0.1	0.1	0.4	0.4	0.2	0	0.1	-0.9	0

Mike Glennon Gamelogs for Career Games 1 to 17​

	Games	Passing	Rushing	Fumbles
Year	Tm	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Inc	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	Sk	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD	Fmb	FL	FF	FR	Yds	TD
2013-2014	TAM	17	16	328	558	230	58.78	3594	26	12	84.5	49	385	6.44	6.41	31	56	1.81	0	9	4	0	6	-24	0
Per Game Average	19.3	32.8	13.5		211.4	1.5	0.7		2.9	22.6			1.8	3.3		0	0.5	0.2	0	0.4	-1.4	0
Per 17 Games	328	558	230		3594	26	12		49	385			31	56		0	9	4	0	6	-24	0

Gardner Minshew Gamelogs for Career Games 1 to 18​

	Games	Passing	Rushing	Fumbles
Year	Tm	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Inc	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	Sk	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD	Fmb	FL	FF	FR	Yds	TD
2019-2020	JAX	18	16	391	617	226	63.37	4409	29	10	93.6	46	271	7.15	7.36	81	413	5.10	0	15	8	0	2	-4	0
Per Game Average	21.7	34.3	12.6		244.9	1.6	0.6		2.6	15.1			4.5	22.9		0	0.8	0.4	0	0.1	-0.2	0

Nick Mullens Passing Statistics for Career Games 2018 to 2020​

	Games	Passing		Passing
Year	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD
2018-2020	SFO	19	16	5-11-0	387	600	64.5	4714	25	4.2	22	3.7	85	7.9	7.0	12.2	248.1	87.2		36	266	5.7	6.99	6.22
Average	6.3	5.3		129	200		1571.3	8.3		7.3									12	88.7
Per 17 Games	17	14		346	537		4218	22		20									32	238

Teddy Bridgewater Gamelogs for Career Games 2 to 17​

	Games	Passing	Rushing	Scoring	Fumbles
Year	Tm	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Inc	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	Sk	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD	TD	Pts	Fmb	FL	FF	FR	Yds	TD
2014-2015	MIN	16	16	324	497	173	65.19	3543	16	14	85.1	50	347	7.13	6.51	54	241	4.46	2	2	12	4	1	0	1	0	0
Per Game Average	20.3	31.1	10.8		221.4	1	0.9		3.1	21.7			3.4	15.1		0.1	0.1	0.8	0.3	0.1	0	0.1	0	0
Per 17 Games	344	528	184		3764	17	15		53	369			57	256		2	2	13	4	1	0	1	0	0

Colt McCoy Gamelogs for Career Games 1 to 16​

	Games	Passing	Rushing	Receiving	Scoring	Fumbles
Year	Tm	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Inc	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	Sk	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Ctch%	Y/Tgt	TD	Pts	Fmb	FL	FF	FR	Yds	TD
2010-2011	CLE	16	16	312	530	218	58.87	3340	16	15	75.7	43	234	6.30	5.63	64	252	3.94	1	2	2	8	4.00	0	100.0%	4.00	1	6	9	2	0	6	-9	0
Per Game Average	19.5	33.1	13.6		208.8	1	0.9		2.7	14.6			4	15.8		0.1	0.1	0.1	0.5		0			0.1	0.4	0.6	0.1	0	0.4	-0.6	0
Per 17 Games	332	563	232		3549	17	16		46	249			68	268		1	2	2	8		0			1	6	10	2	0	6	-10	0

Blaine Gabbert Gamelogs for Career Games 2 to 17​

	Games	Passing	Rushing	Fumbles
Year	Tm	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Inc	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	Sk	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD	Fmb	FL	FF	FR	Yds	TD
2011-2012	JAX	16	16	235	465	230	50.54	2475	15	11	67.3	44	325	5.32	4.90	53	108	2.04	0	15	4	0	3	-39	0
Per Game Average	14.7	29.1	14.4		154.7	0.9	0.7		2.8	20.3			3.3	6.8		0	0.9	0.3	0	0.2	-2.4	0
Per 17 Games	250	494	244		2630	16	12		47	345			56	115		0	16	4	0	3	-41	0

Then, just to throw the fanboys a bone, I figured Fields at least had to be better than JaMarcus Russel after 16 game.... but.... no.

JaMarcus Russell Passing Statistics for Career Games 2007 to 2008​

	Games	Passing		Passing
Year	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD
2007-2008	RAI	19	16	5-11-0	234	434	53.9	2796	15	3.5	12	2.8	84	6.4	5.9	11.9	147.2	73.9		37	250	7.9	5.41	4.90
Average	9.5	8		117	217		1398	7.5		6									18.5	125
Per 17 Games	17	14		209	388		2502	13		11									33	224

That is some pretty embarrassing shit right there- a list of the first 16 games of a bunch of scrubs on bad teams, and Justin is doing worse than the lot of them, save Gabbert.

Hell, I was even gonna throw every fanboys favorite commentator on the list, the mighty Dan Orlovsky, but alas, he didnt have enough starts to qualify.

I will point out that in 12 career starts he compiled a better td to int ratio, more passing yards, and a better passer rating than justin has had in 16 starts though.

Dan Orlovsky Passing Statistics for Career Games 2005 to 2015​

	Games	Passing		Passing
Year	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD
2005-2015	DET,HTX,CLT,TAM	26	12	2-10-0	298	512	58.2	3132	15	2.9	13	2.5	96	6.1	5.6	10.5	120.5	75.3		29	182	5.4	5.45	4.93
Average	3.7	1.7		42.6	73.1		447.4	2.1		1.9									4.1	26
Per 17 Games	17	8		195	335		2048	10		8									19	119

 

[airtime143]

If y'all dont like the names, feel free to post the first 16 starts of whomever you choose.

 

[RubberBanMan]

I’m on hold waiting for Ryan Poles to tell him to move on from Fields immediately

Wait one

Brb

 

[sevvy]

These are some pretty bad comparisons.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Wow what a stupid comparison. He fits these qbs style more.

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[chuck3671]

He’s getting pressured on close to 50% of drop backs. That’s the worst percentage since these stats were started back in 2009. Pretty sure that has something to do with it. He’s been sacked 23 times in 6 games and it would be higher if it wasn’t for his insane talent

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Wow what a stupid comparison. He fits these qbs style more.

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Out of the 4 Lamar had the best OL and a great TE plus a great running game. Hurts has always had a great OL, same with Allen.

 

[Doubledown]

86% of QB Drafted will be Bust. Easy call early in A Career


Justin Fields will not be in that Group IMO, will he be A Bear next year? Who knows..

 

[Bust]

He's the more athletic version of Tim Tebow.

Tim Tebow could barely hit 50 pct of his passes just like his brother Justin Tebow.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

The offensive line is horrible at pass protection. That said, there are also plays where the hits or sacks occurred because Fields held onto the ball too long. Both are true. As is the fact that the WR have dropped balls and there have been poorly thrown balls. As is the fact that there are WR not getting open and also WR getting open but Fields not throwing the ball. It's multiple things all going on.

Fields has had worst stats compared with almost every QB in NFL history through 16 games. There is no denying that. It is a objective fact just looking at the numbers. In fact, there have been QBs who had better numbers than him that were benched before they could even get to 16 games. The sole reason Fields is getting a chance is because he is so physically gifted. It's like dating a 10 and finding out she is terrible at sex. You might give her a few extra chances because her body is smoking.

Fields has shown some progress in certain areas the last couple of games. He can make explosive plays but compounds it with catastrophically bad plays. He makes Cutler look like a steady game manager lol. He has to fix this.

Parkins on the score... who btw is one of the biggest Fields supporters there is.. was saying that if the Bears had the number 1 pick, he is taking a new QB. You just can't pass that up if a QB has that bad a record after 2 years. That is just reality.

 

[bamainatlanta]

He deserves more time but he just simply isn’t looking like thee guy. He never had a chance here really. From going to Nagy to this roster, it was a dead end road.