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Imagine blaming the crash coming up on market sentiment for Biden. If anything the warning of just how incredibly fake the equity market is was made completely obvious in the full recovery after the covid crash. All the insiders got there's before the crash and bought it all back up while Mnuchin dumped 100s of billions into corporate bonds for added security.

Biden is the savior for this market, we need a 20-30% correction and then we can hope to ramp up with sustainable cost of capital and normalized PEs.

This country is jam-packed with uneducated morons, they see inflated values in their 401k and have no ability to recognize how illusory it is and how obvious it is that the markets will crash hard - long before they are old enough to cash out.

Someone once said something about a fool and his money.....
 

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Biden is the savior for this market, we need a 20-30% correction and then we can hope to ramp up with sustainable cost of capital and normalized PEs.

This country is jam-packed with uneducated morons, they see inflated values in their 401k and have no ability to recognize how illusory it is and how obvious it is that the markets will crash hard - long before they are old enough to cash out.

Someone once said something about a fool and his money.....

I find most people don't understand the control they have over even their 401k money.

Like they think because it is part of a 401k program and pre-tax, it goes into funds and is no longer theirs until the day they retire.

It is your fucking money... if the market is shit, take it out of the market (stocks).

If the fund your money is in sucks ass, you can move it to another fund whenever you want.

IT IS YOUR FUCKING MONEY.

Lol that will one day be my campaign slogan.
 

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I find most people don't understand the control they have over even their 401k money.

Like they think because it is part of a 401k program and pre-tax, it goes into funds and is no longer theirs until the day they retire.

It is your fucking money... if the market is shit, take it out of the market (stocks).

If the fund your money is in sucks ass, you can move it to another fund whenever you want.

IT IS YOUR FUCKING MONEY.

Lol that will one day be my campaign slogan.

Rasko as your speech writer, and remy as your press secretary? Scoot keeping minutes, and Silence your foil?
 

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I’m down 2 grand in my little portfolio today. WTF
 

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I’m down 2 grand in my little portfolio today. WTF
you must have the socially conscious portfolio, this is about secret government stimulus, dividends, and cult like optimism.

I'd get your portfolios clear before Covid/Flu late fall spike, corporate Biden change attack to blame socialism and mass exodus from corporate dividend whale stocks, an eventual housing collapse in next 4 years, that might be homeless surge mandated due to the price manipulation of land lord-ownership going mainstream investment. Right now you have a strong rental market keeping scarcity at a record low(with human desperation at a high).

2020 will be felt for a long time and its not going to be pretty. Good luck all.
 
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I find most people don't understand the control they have over even their 401k money.

Like they think because it is part of a 401k program and pre-tax, it goes into funds and is no longer theirs until the day they retire.

It is your fucking money... if the market is shit, take it out of the market (stocks).

If the fund your money is in sucks ass, you can move it to another fund whenever you want.

IT IS YOUR FUCKING MONEY.

Lol that will one day be my campaign slogan.

You got my vote.

Now BACK THE FUCK UP
 

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Biden is the savior for this market, we need a 20-30% correction and then we can hope to ramp up with sustainable cost of capital and normalized PEs.

This country is jam-packed with uneducated morons, they see inflated values in their 401k and have no ability to recognize how illusory it is and how obvious it is that the markets will crash hard - long before they are old enough to cash out.

Someone once said something about a fool and his money.....
I follow pretty closely. I am an active day trader now and lifelong investor.
The market just corrected damn near 10% in 6 days. The "crash" happened already back in March.
There may be one more serious 10% correction that is soley Biden/Trump related but the market will not "crash" again.
Sentiment is high and most folks that have money in the market are not part of the 51 million unemployed.(not sure where you got that figure. Isn't 21 million currently?)
And if by some chance the market rekts itself twice,historically in one year, buy more stocks!
Market has always rebounded and to claim a "crash is coming" is just a guess. I've heard " a crash is coming" the last 8 years running.

A fool and his money are soon parted. Indeed. But that refers to NKLA investors and penny stock pumpers. If you play the charts technically, you come out ahead.

I'd challenge all here to take a course or ten and read books. It's not scary when you have the tools to succeed.
 

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Market just xorr

I follow pretty closely. I am an active day trader now and lifelong investor.
The market just corrected damn near 10% in 6 days. The "crash" happened already back in March.
There may be one more serious 10% correction that is soley Biden/Trump related but the market will not "crash" again.
Sentiment is high and most folks that have money in the market are not part of the 51 million unemployed.(not sure where you got that figure. Isn't 21 million currently?)
And if by some chance the market rekts itself twice,historically in one year, buy more stocks!
Market has always rebounded and to claim a "crash is coming" is just a guess. I've heard " a crash is coming" the last 8 years running.

A fool and his money are soon parted. Indeed. But that refers to NKLA investors and penny stock pumpers. If you play the charts technically, you come out ahead.

I'd challenge all here to take a course or ten and read books. It's not scary when you have the tools to succeed.

Yeah, well...its likely the mother of all crashes. imo. 20,000 Dow Jones would be a relief to know thats it. Artificially propping it back up in 4 months won't end well when the fires are still burning and spreading to other sectors.

We actually have to continue gains against the global market, without a healthy infrastructure plan to do so thats not going to happen. Education is overburdensome and failing.

The ownership class cannot be healthy when the owned are not and are breaking down. Overpaying the deteriorating condition of the American worker has reached its inevitable conclusion.

We are in big trouble and the ability for leadership to emerge is being drowned out in cacophonous nonsense.
 

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Yeah, well...its likely the mother of all crashes. imo. 20,000 Dow Jones would be a relief to know thats it. Artificially propping it back up in 4 months won't end well when the fires are still burning and spreading to other sectors.

We actually have to continue gains against the global market, without a healthy infrastructure plan to do so thats not going to happen. Education is overburdensome and failing.

The ownership class cannot be healthy when the owned are not and are breaking down. Overpaying the deteriorating condition of the American worker has reached its inevitable conclusion.

We are in big trouble and the ability for leadership to emerge is being drowned out in cacophonous nonsense.
Imagine a country that has educated investors. Maybe they make an extra 5,10,20,30,50,100 thousand per year. What would that do for the economy?
 

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Market just xorr

I follow pretty closely. I am an active day trader now and lifelong investor.
The market just corrected damn near 10% in 6 days. The "crash" happened already back in March.
There may be one more serious 10% correction that is soley Biden/Trump related but the market will not "crash" again.
Sentiment is high and most folks that have money in the market are not part of the 51 million unemployed.(not sure where you got that figure. Isn't 21 million currently?)
And if by some chance the market rekts itself twice,historically in one year, buy more stocks!
Market has always rebounded and to claim a "crash is coming" is just a guess. I've heard " a crash is coming" the last 8 years running.

A fool and his money are soon parted. Indeed. But that refers to NKLA investors and penny stock pumpers. If you play the charts technically, you come out ahead.

I'd challenge all here to take a course or ten and read books. It's not scary when you have the tools to succeed.
Yeah, I've read the books and studied finance and investing, and worked as an financial analyst.

Of course sentiment is high, that's obviously reflected in the equity markets. But I take a macro view and the historically inflated P/E rations plus mega unemployment plus free capital do matter. History and macro theory both indicate this market is frothy and due for a substantial correction. Throw in all the industry deregulation and there is only one direction this market can take in the medium term, perhaps in the short term.

And I don't think the correction is going to be limited to 10%, not by a long shot, and the exacerbating problem is that the weapons to stimulate a down market have already been spent (e.i., tax cut, cutting interest rates), so the recovery is going to be lengthy and challenging.

For example, when Obama inherited the 2008 debacle of a market the prime rate 6.5% and by the end of the year he stimulated it by cutting it to 3.25%. There's no more runway from a practical perspective. Shit is gonna get bad.
 

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Its to be seen how much the current hidden inflation can last on the Dow Jones market price.

You think now that your 28,000 is the same as it was two years ago, but its been heavily sliding for over 5 years. Its worth half what it was, and the crash that already happened is as invisible to your dumb asses as the one that is coming.

you might think you are worth half as much in 18 months, but you are already worth half as much, and will be worth 20% what you thought in 2 years.

good luck all.
 

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Market just xorr

I follow pretty closely. I am an active day trader now and lifelong investor.
The market just corrected damn near 10% in 6 days. The "crash" happened already back in March.
There may be one more serious 10% correction that is soley Biden/Trump related but the market will not "crash" again.
Sentiment is high and most folks that have money in the market are not part of the 51 million unemployed.(not sure where you got that figure. Isn't 21 million currently?)
And if by some chance the market rekts itself twice,historically in one year, buy more stocks!
Market has always rebounded and to claim a "crash is coming" is just a guess. I've heard " a crash is coming" the last 8 years running.

A fool and his money are soon parted. Indeed. But that refers to NKLA investors and penny stock pumpers. If you play the charts technically, you come out ahead.

I'd challenge all here to take a course or ten and read books. It's not scary when you have the tools to succeed.

FTR, I made something like 600% off NKLA.
 

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Yeah, I've read the books and studied finance and investing, and worked as an financial analyst.

Of course sentiment is high, that's obviously reflected in the equity markets. But I take a macro view and the historically inflated P/E rations plus mega unemployment plus free capital do matter. History and macro theory both indicate this market is frothy and due for a substantial correction. Throw in all the industry deregulation and there is only one direction this market can take in the medium term, perhaps in the short term.

And I don't think the correction is going to be limited to 10%, not by a long shot, and the exacerbating problem is that the weapons to stimulate a down market have already been spent (e.i., tax cut, cutting interest rates), so the recovery is going to be lengthy and challenging.

For example, when Obama inherited the 2008 debacle of a market the prime rate 6.5% and by the end of the year he stimulated it by cutting it to 3.25%. There's no more runway from a practical perspective. Shit is gonna get bad.

It always goes back up. I'd argue that the Bear market started 17 days ago. lower highs and lower lows for most tech. The other stage four,dinosaur stocks have still not recovered from Covid.
And when the market crashes, there are plenty of funds that go up as they are inverse. The market makes money is my point.
 

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