The Cat

[bears5150]

Looks like he is to be traded? What do we get for him and what is your opinion?

 

[Granada]

We were talking about this in another thread, but it makes sense to start a new one.

I believe you're talking about this:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1544786163738763266

Considering what we got for Hagel, it needs to be a massive haul. Hagel fetched you two 1sts and two NHL-ready players. There are so many possibilities and Hagel's haul doesn't necessarily have to match that exactly; it could be a very high 1st, two Grade-A prospects, and an NHL ready player; or a high 1st, two 2nds, and a Grade-A prospect. Either way, I'm expecting at least 3-4 assets in return, and at least one of the assets will (rather, needs to) be a 1st round pick.

 

[Granada]

Evidently, Philly was in talks for Debrincat, but they left the table when Davidson demanded their 5th overall pick. I love it, from Davidson's standpoint. If you're not willing to give up your high 1st round pick, then see ya.

 

[KBIB]

Don’t think he gets traded.

 

[Granada]

He gone. Instead of the 5th they got the 7th.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

He gone. Instead of the 5th they got the 7th.

hey Granada, you think the Hawks have someone in mind or is it a Best player available or what do think of a possible trade up, The number #7 and Grimson posted Dach for maybe the #2.

 

[RacerX]

Thank you Cat for the elite snipering, you will be missed.

Also, this is the way.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

He gone. Instead of the 5th they got the 7th.

Let me throw one at you, you think if Blowman doesn’t waste our number #1 pick with the Jones transaction, The Cat is still playing in Chicago.

 

[MassHavoc]

I really hope they can use the 3 second rounders to get up into the first again.

 

[Tater]

I really hope they can use the 3 second rounders to get up into the first again.

And even better, a first rounder next year instead.

 

[Granada]

Let me throw one at you, you think if Blowman doesn’t waste our number #1 pick with the Jones transaction, The Cat is still playing in Chicago.

Ooh man, that is a great question HIM. Think we had the 6th overall then. I think he would still be playing, at least to start this year. Because the whole point of the trade was because Davidson wanted a first this year; if he had one, I think he would have held on to Debrincat for a better haul.

I hope it's a best player available. I mean it has to be -- I know D and Center are always top priorities, but especially now that you just traded the Cat, you have to go with the best even if it's a winger.

 

[Granada]

hey Granada, you think the Hawks have someone in mind or is it a Best player available or what do think of a possible trade up, The number #7 and Grimson posted Dach for maybe the #2.

I'm not sure if it's more valuable to have two 1st Rounds or an even higher lone 1st Round for Davidson. Maybe if Wright doesn't go first Davidson would pull that trigger, especially if there's no confidence in Dach anymore.

 

[Diehardfan]

We'll see how it plays out.....they just traded a proven NHL star player who is not only still young but scores a lot of goals for a handful draft picks in a mediocre draft field who may or maynot be NHL players someday. This probably won't turn out well. That 7/10 year rebuild LordK was referencing doesn't seem so far fetched now.

 

[Granada]

We'll see how it plays out.....they just traded a proven NHL star player who is not only still young but scores a lot of goals for a handful draft picks in a mediocre draft field who may or maynot be NHL players someday. This probably won't turn out well. That 7/10 year rebuild LordK was referencing doesn't seem so far fetched now.

Yeah I can't blame your stance here. Seems like the overwhelming opinion on the trade was that the Hawks got fleeced and Ottawa should have given more. Can't really argue that either, considering Debrincat's intangibles. The guy is a future "A" at least. That should have netted a prospect or an NHL ready player at least. I would have liked more, and maybe I'm just overly excited at having the 7th overall that it's clouding my judgement (very possible), but I don't think it's a horrible return. At least right now, lol

 

[Diehardfan]

Yeah I can't blame your stance here. Seems like the overwhelming opinion on the trade was that the Hawks got fleeced and Ottawa should have given more. Can't really argue that either, considering Debrincat's intangibles. The guy is a future "A" at least. That should have netted a prospect or an NHL ready player at least. I would have liked more, and maybe I'm just overly excited at having the 7th overall that it's clouding my judgement (very possible), but I don't think it's a horrible return. At least right now, lol

Hey, I'm a Hawks fan. I'm with ya, I'd love to see them grab a few potential star players but draft picks are such a crap shoot these days. What did he get, 5 picks? If he gets gets more than one or two good players out of it.....he's beaten the odds.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

Hey, I'm a Hawks fan. I'm with ya, I'd love to see them grab a few potential star players but draft picks are such a crap shoot these days. What did he get, 5 picks? If he gets gets more than one or two good players out of it.....he's beaten the odds.

Honestly Diehard, if the Hawks win the draft lotto next season it will be a win. Losing the Cat just makes this team worse and ups the team chances of finishing at the bottom of the league. Somehow, if the Hawks could trade Kane for a number one, we have next years Tampa number #1 and the team won the Bedard sweepstakes, then it would be a win.

 

[TL1961]

Rebuild or not, trading Kane would suck.

 

[Diehardfan]

Honestly Diehard, if the Hawks win the draft lotto next season it will be a win. Losing the Cat just makes this team worse and ups the team chances of finishing at the bottom of the league. Somehow, if the Hawks could trade Kane for a number one, we have next years Tampa number #1 and the team won the Bedard sweepstakes, then it would be a win.

The thing is.....even if they finish dead last, there's no guarntee they will have the #1 pick. Best chance, yes, but not a lock. Anything can happen and much like the NBA(where Bettman learned his craft), I don't trust the validity of that lottery for second.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

The thing is.....even if they finish dead last, there's no guarntee they will have the #1 pick. Best chance, yes, but not a lock. Anything can happen and much like the NBA(where Bettman learned his craft), I don't trust the validity of that lottery for second.

For sure, but we all know the league generates $$$$ when the Hawks are selling out the UC and making $$$$, keep that in mind, it wasn’t by coincidence MTL landed the number#1 after being at the bottom of the league.

 

[Diehardfan]

For sure, but we all know the league generates $$$$ when the Hawks are selling out the UC and making $$$$, keep that in mind, it wasn’t by coincidence MTL landed the number#1 after being at the bottom of the league.

Yeah, that's true but they snarkily gave the Hawks the #1 for Kaner......would they be bold enough to do it again?