At the moment Cease and Jimenez are 25 & 24 years old and are on the upswing for the Sox. At 32, Quintana may or may not ever be a decent pitcher again. For the Cubs....you can throw out the W/L record.....what counts are two things. Starts and Quality Starts. He did show up and take the ball for two seasons, I'll give him credit for that. 63 starts with all of 27 being QS. That's roughly 60% of his starts were not what the team needed. That's not a lot of return for two of your best young prospects. And what makes it even worse is that the kids traded will be doing this for years.....the Cubs thought so much of Quintana that they let him walk rather than piss away any more money on him.
No matter how anyone wants to spin it....the trade was a bad one. I've been saying this since the day the trade was made.
Indeed I am. Both foresight and hindsight. I came out with nays the day the trade was made.....the hindsight is just confirmation.
I agree. It was the new guy acting like no one here remembered that move that started it.I get the frustration on it. But I don’t blame the cubs front office for going all in during that window. You can’t expect every move to pan out. Most of the trades of prospects worked out, i.e. Chapman, wade davis, dexter Fowler, etc…the Q trade didn’t work out like everyone had hoped. At the time the cubs needed a starting pitcher badly. It sucks, but to dwell on it doesn’t make much sense to me. Especially in a thread that has not much to do with it
Shoot.We'd only like to not remember it.
Stubborn ass Tony LaRussa, who is more interested in showing he cant be persuaded to change his mind than he is in winning, continues to use Kimbrel improperly.I believe that he is a set routine guy. He has been pushed into a role outside of his comfort zone.
He had the best team in baseball three years in a row in Oakland and lost two of the three World Series to arguably two of the worst World Series winning teams in history. He was on the verge of being fired in St. Louis when the 83 - 79 cards won a WS. Rick Renteria could be winning with this White Sox teamYa but he wins everywhere he goes.