Tony Dungy breaking it down - why the bears are contenders

[ThatGuyRyan]

Always liked him.

 

[Brownie]

....I can see it with this defense, but not with the way Nagy runs the offense. Dude refuses to do what it truly takes to make this a complete team and not have to carry the offense.

A smart coach would look back the past few years and do everything possible to not waste a SB defense. Play to our strengths/hide weaknesses on Offense to balance things out. At least until the O masters SOMETHING positive at all. But Nagy doesn't appear to learn from the past. If anything, he and the offense ride the D's coat tails so hard that they actually come out of these wins feeling like nothing is wrong with that side of the ball.

Year 3 - Zero Identity Offensively.

Dude is delusional... and we're gonna be in that familiar position of winning some, patting ourselves on the back, and then losing when it counts because we can't score with better teams or hold/run the ball when we need to.

 

[Jack Lantern]

....I can see it with this defense, but not with the way Nagy runs the offense. Dude refuses to do what it truly takes to make this a complete team and not have to carry the offense.

A smart coach would look back the past few years and do everything possible to not waste a SB defense. Play to our strengths/hide weaknesses on Offense to balance things out. At least until the O masters SOMETHING positive at all. But Nagy doesn't appear to learn from the past. If anything, he and the offense ride the D's coat tails so hard that they actually come out of these wins feeling like nothing is wrong with that side of the ball.

Year 3 - Zero Identity Offensively.

Dude is delusional... and we're gonna be in that familiar position of winning some, patting ourselves on the back, and then losing when it counts because we can't score with better teams or hold/run the ball when we need to.

In a one and done format the Bears have just as much chance as the Ravens did last year whom steamrolled the regular season.

Bears are still one of the healthiest teams in the NFL (which is going to come in play). 2020 Defense in particular are all intact.

who cares about offense? bears are who they are. O has always been the weak link for 100 years.

This defense is capable of carrying

 

[mecha]

In a one and done format the Bears have just as much chance as the Ravens did last year whom steamrolled the regular season.

Bears are still one of the healthiest teams in the NFL (which is going to come in play). 2020 Defense in particular are all intact.

who cares about offense? bears are who they are. O has always been the weak link for 100 years.

This defense is capable of carrying

they're still winning games. just enjoy it, like 2010. maybe something happens. maybe it doesn't. what's different from the last 9 years? lol

 

[Montucky]

They need a few guys to step up and, perhaps more importantly, fall out-of-love with a few players. Leno Jr. is eventually going to start costing them football games.

 

[Enasic]

Year 3 and no identity on offense. That just about sums it up. Offensive guru brought here to transform the offense. No identity in 3 seasons.

The identity of this team is defense. Defense that Nagy doesn’t run. Imagine if the Bears had a middle of the road defense? Nagy would be unemployed

 

[Montucky]

Year 3 and no identity on offense. That just about sums it up. Offensive guru brought here to transform the offense. No identity in 3 seasons.

The identity of this team is defense. Defense that Nagy doesn’t run. Imagine if the Bears had a middle of the road defense? Nagy would be unemployed

See: 2019 Chicago Bears

 

[CHIBEAR]

Year 3 and no identity on offense. That just about sums it up. Offensive guru brought here to transform the offense. No identity in 3 seasons.

The identity of this team is defense. Defense that Nagy doesn’t run. Imagine if the Bears had a middle of the road defense? Nagy would be unemployed

Would he or is that what fan delusions would have you believe ?

The Bears are paying over paying 40% of the cap to the starting defense and you are running around here talking about he should be transforming the offense . Some of you are so disconnected from the realty of the team you follow its crazy .Next year we will be paying 50 million to just the linebackers but somehow we complain about wanting a great offense.

When you waste three years on a bad pick at the most important position offense you will tend to have no identity. We are basically trying to deMitch the offense as we have turned over quite a bit of offensive investment that needed developing to a qb that didnt really know the game himself . We are paying dearly for that mistake .

Nagy runs the team which includes the defense some of you are flat out ridiculous . Before Nagy got here we had a top 10 defense and how many games did we win ? 5 We are already at that number and surpassed it the last two years this take is embarrassingly awful considering where we were before Nagy . That is the talk of some fans who have conveniently forgotten that we have 5 playoff appearances in the last 20 years

 

[Jack Lantern]

Would he or is that what fan delusions would have you believe ?

The Bears are paying over paying 40% of the cap to the starting defense and you are running around here talking about he should be transforming the offense . Some of you are so disconnected from the realty of the team you follow its crazy .Next year we will be paying 50 million to just the linebackers but somehow we complain about wanting a great offense.

When you waste three years on a bad pick at the most important position offense you will tend to have no identity. We are basically trying to deMitch the offense as we have turned over quite a bit of offensive investment that needed developing to a qb that didnt really know the game himself . We are paying dearly for that mistake .

Nagy runs the team which includes the defense some of you are flat out ridiculous . Before Nagy got here we had a top 10 defense and how many games did we win ? 5 We are already at that number and surpassed it the last two years this take is embarrassingly awful considering where we were before Nagy . That is the talk of some fans who have conveniently forgotten that we have 5 playoff appearances in the last 20 years

 

[Enasic]

Would he or is that what fan delusions would have you believe ?

The Bears are paying over paying 40% of the cap to the starting defense and you are running around here talking about he should be transforming the offense . Some of you are so disconnected from the realty of the team you follow its crazy .Next year we will be paying 50 million to just the linebackers but somehow we complain about wanting a great offense.

When you waste three years on a bad pick at the most important position offense you will tend to have no identity. We are basically trying to deMitch the offense as we have turned over quite a bit of offensive investment that needed developing to a qb that didnt really know the game himself . We are paying dearly for that mistake .

Nagy runs the team which includes the defense some of you are flat out ridiculous . Before Nagy got here we had a top 10 defense and how many games did we win ? 5 We are already at that number and surpassed it the last two years this take is embarrassingly awful considering where we were before Nagy . That is the talk of some fans who have conveniently forgotten that we have 5 playoff appearances in the last 20 years

Top 10 defense before Nagy is far different than the best defense in 18 that took the ball away and scored on defense like there was no tomorrow.

Look, a good HC makes due with the pieces they have and maximizes the talent. Does anyone believe Nagy does this? Please, enlighten me how. You put someone like Shanny or Reid, hell, even McVay, and the offense doesn’t look this pathetic with no identity for three years.

 

[mecha]

They need a few guys to step up and, perhaps more importantly, fall out-of-love with a few players. Leno Jr. is eventually going to start costing them football games.

who's going to replace Leno? I would think if there was someone better they would've used them instead.

Bears got to playoffs with an even worse offensive line once before. not saying it's right or that's the way it should be, you can only address so much after trading away draft picks and within salary caps. they extended Leno under the pretense he was good enough to be a mainstay at the position; it didn't work out this time.

Top 10 defense before Nagy is far different than the best defense in 18 that took the ball away and scored on defense like there was no tomorrow.

Look, a good HC makes due with the pieces they have and maximizes the talent. Does anyone believe Nagy does this? Please, enlighten me how. You put someone like Shanny or Reid, hell, even McVay, and the offense doesn’t look this pathetic with no identity for three years.

Nagy's supposedly a good "player's coach". which I find silly when people say "players want to play for him", but there's guys that should be hitting their stride and have regressed during his tenure. I like the strategy of him just being head coach and let someone else handle the offensive playcalling, but that happens in a perfect world... this world isn't perfect.

it's like they want us to be constantly stressed out.

 

[Jack Lantern]

Top 10 defense before Nagy is far different than the best defense in 18 that took the ball away and scored on defense like there was no tomorrow.

Look, a good HC makes due with the pieces they have and maximizes the talent. Does anyone believe Nagy does this? Please, enlighten me how. You put someone like Shanny or Reid, hell, even McVay, and the offense doesn’t look this pathetic with no identity for three years.

McVay's offense scored 3 points in the Superbowl. Choke job

 

[Montucky]

Top 10 defense before Nagy is far different than the best defense in 18 that took the ball away and scored on defense like there was no tomorrow.

Look, a good HC makes due with the pieces they have and maximizes the talent. Does anyone believe Nagy does this? Please, enlighten me how. You put someone like Shanny or Reid, hell, even McVay, and the offense doesn’t look this pathetic with no identity for three years.

I dont think anyone in the league can squeeze anything out of this pathetic OL (especially now that Daniels is gone) and a below-average runningback like Montgomery. You can maybe get away with having a bad offensive line if the runningbacks good, or you can get away with having the least talented starting runningback in the league if the offensive line is good...but both is a death sentence.

 

[mecha]

McVay's offense scored 3 points in the Superbowl. Choke job

that was genuinely a terrible game to watch. Broncos/Panthers was like a masterwork in defense, I don't know what Patriots/Rams was. I watched both games at the same place, so maybe I shouldn't ever do that again.

 

[Enasic]

McVay's offense scored 3 points in the Superbowl. Choke job

I don’t disagree. I’d still take him over Nagy though

 

[bareness]

Would he or is that what fan delusions would have you believe ?

The Bears are paying over paying 40% of the cap to the starting defense and you are running around here talking about he should be transforming the offense . Some of you are so disconnected from the realty of the team you follow its crazy .Next year we will be paying 50 million to just the linebackers but somehow we complain about wanting a great offense.

When you waste three years on a bad pick at the most important position offense you will tend to have no identity. We are basically trying to deMitch the offense as we have turned over quite a bit of offensive investment that needed developing to a qb that didnt really know the game himself . We are paying dearly for that mistake .

Nagy runs the team which includes the defense some of you are flat out ridiculous . Before Nagy got here we had a top 10 defense and how many games did we win ? 5 We are already at that number and surpassed it the last two years this take is embarrassingly awful considering where we were before Nagy . That is the talk of some fans who have conveniently forgotten that we have 5 playoff appearances in the last 20 years

You aint lying the Trestman era was atrocious. Great point and for example look at how the Cowboys paid their offense at the consequence of their defense. Same here we paid a defense to be number 1 in the league and they close. You think those dogs in that locker room aint licking their chops right now at people calling the Rams a number defense. Cannot pay both sides fellas.

This team is showing the grit of 2018 without "up and coming" version of the number 2 pick that all hopes were on to take the next step like Watson and Mahomes. I have said this in numerous threads the worst thing for the Bears was Trubisky not figuring it out this year because we will be in quarterback hell for a while unless Pace gives up picks to move in the top ten of the draft.

To be honest, I am not confident he will make the right choice this time either. I mean its more uncertainty after Lawrence and Fields this year then let's say 2017 when clearly Watson should have been the choice based on his experience and play in college. This is why the Bears made the decisions they made in the offseason it was to make a playoff run to have another chance at picking a QB.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

You put someone like Shanny or Reid, hell, even McVay, and the offense doesn’t look this pathetic with no identity for three years.

All three of those coaches have vastly superior offensive lines than the bears, not even close.

 

[HearshotKDS]

The identity of this team is defense. Defense that Nagy doesn’t run. Imagine if the Bears had a middle of the road defense? Nagy would be unemployed

In this hypothetical, do the Bears have more resources for the O, or does the Defense just get worse by opting out for Covid? Nagy coaches a team that invests heavily in its Defense (much more so than the O), and relies on the part of the team that is heavily invested in to win games. And some of you idiots cite that like its a knock against him. That's called "playing to the teams strength".

There are a lot of valid criticisms of Nagy - the offense has regressed, very questionable clock management, un-healthy mental state with regards to kickers, but "carried by the defense" is such a stupid angle to go for. The FO invested so heavily in the defense so they could carry the team, you meatballs, they are hoping Nagy can just make the O good enough to be carried - if you were expecting a shootout O you came to the wrong stadium. Now if Nagy could just deliver on an offense that is good enough to be reliably carried against good teams...

 

[TecmoSuperbOwl]

God, if this team was getting even average run blocking I'd really see them as a contender instead of a one and done playoff team. As it stands I give the Bears a puncher's chance against almost any team in the league, but if we were fielding even just an average run game this team would be legit scary.

 

[BearFanJohn]

who cares about offense? bears are who they are. O has always been the weak link for 100 years.

And the Bears have won exactly one SB in the last 54 years. They should have won more but Ditka..... It is an offensive league now more than ever. The defense is good but I don’t good enough without a more competent offense.