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You're funny.
You're funny.
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shouldn't this be directed to the "its the OL fault" crowd? I mean statistically thats a silly excuse at this point..
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Please stop with the bragging.
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Nah. What's strange is continuing to double down, when it should be clear to any rational person looking at things in context that it's a bad take. But be you.
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Threads like this, and some of the asinine arguments supporting it, is why some webmasters/mods end up turning to booze. Holy shit.
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its your opinion its a bad take but cant seem to back up that opinion now can you?
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Lol. It's hilarious that you think I'd do this with you, when you've been going back and forth with others for 2 weeks about this. I really don't care about your opinions, or wasting my time trying to change your perspective on something that should be patently obvious to anyone with a brain.
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You cant do it.. thats the point.
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Even with your cherry picked stats it still doesn’t help your argument
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I would tell you ESPN has jumped the shark and is now below PFF in credibility.
NFL pass-rushing, run-stopping, blocking leaderboard: Win rate rankings for 2022
Our win rate metics stack the best run-blocking, run-stopping, pass-protecting and pass-rushing players and teams in the game for the 2022 season.www.espn.com
2nd in Pass Block Win Rate, tied for 2nd in Run block win rate.
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Not only that, but the entirety of his argument is based on ONE game. One game where the oline gave up lots of pressures regardless, somehow proves that the oline is fine, and it's Justin Fields' fault.
If you base any opinion on one game, you can come up with lots of fun conclusions. In fact, based on one game vs. Tampa in 2018, I can proudly proclaim that Mitch Trubisky is a hall of fame QB.
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And it was more like one half of one gameNot only that, but the entirety of his argument is based on ONE game. One game where the oline gave up lots of pressures regardless, somehow proves that the oline is fine, and it's Justin Fields' fault.
If you base any opinion on one game, you can come up with lots of fun conclusions. In fact, based on one game vs. Tampa in 2018, I can proudly proclaim that Mitch Trubisky is a hall of fame QB.
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NFL pass-rushing, run-stopping, blocking leaderboard: Win rate rankings for 2022
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2nd in Pass Block Win Rate, tied for 2nd in Run block win rate.
Discuss.
Think the run block win rate makes sense when you compare to the results actually on the field. I think the pass block win rate is inflated the Bears move the pocket a lot which naturally means defenders are likely too take longer to beat their blocks because the QB is on the move. This is born out by the fact if you look at metrics on blocking on true pass sets vs pass sets where the QB is on the move or uses play action, the Bears are much worse blocking in true pass sets.
Having said that, it is also the case that Fields holds the ball too long sometimes but that is his skill set so ultimately we need an OL that is going to hold up longer so that Fields can get the ball downfield. It doesn't really matter if you held your block for 2.5 seconds if the play call is such that you are doing a 7 step drop because you want to get the ball downfield.
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So u refuse to address the collapsing pocket we all see. U refuse to admit the collapsing pocket forces JF to run for his
life and or become a play-maker. Have u ever thought that it's JF who makes the OL look better than what it is??
Pocket collapsing and look what happens
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Justin Fields' Herculean escape nets 13-yard gain on third .
pay close to this footage one below
Justin Fields' spinning escape from chaos yields first down
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The problem is you have people looking at data without understanding the context. The Bears don't run a lot of true pass sets and when they do they certainly struggle in them.
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Here's another one the announcer heard me @0:03 pocket collapse
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Our offense is not predicated on the quick passing game i.e. the WCO. So yes he will hold the ball waiting for the route to develop. Key point here is we do not run a offense based on the quick passing game i.e. the WCO
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So u refuse to address the collapsing pocket we all see. U refuse to admit the collapsing pocket forces JF to run for his
life and or become a play-maker. Have u ever thought that it's JF who makes the OL look better than what it is??
Pocket collapsing and look what happens
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Justin Fields' Herculean escape nets 13-yard gain on third .
pay close to this footage one below
Justin Fields' spinning escape from chaos yields first down
You people are hilarious. I don't know why I bother. You're right. There are only two choices. Either the line is terrible and Fields is great, or the line is great and Fields is terrible. There is no chance that Fields can at times make the o-line look worse. There is no chance that the line has changed and played at varying degrees of quality over the season. Pick your side! There are only two choices! Bad or good! Fight fight fight!
No wonder every decent poster has long abandoned this place.
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you can be led to believe the Bears offensive line is better than it really is if you only watch highlight videos.
about 99% of everyone coming out with these theories clearly don't watch actual games.
I'm a Bears fan, I don't care that they're playing poorly and I don't need positive reinforcement to get through my week. it's what you should expect when the team has been run by some big picture thinking clown for 7 years that overlooks actual problems right in front of him. oh, and just spends more creating a new problem in an effort to fix the first problem.
about 99% of everyone coming out with these theories clearly don't watch actual games.
I'm a Bears fan, I don't care that they're playing poorly and I don't need positive reinforcement to get through my week. it's what you should expect when the team has been run by some big picture thinking clown for 7 years that overlooks actual problems right in front of him. oh, and just spends more creating a new problem in an effort to fix the first problem.
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There are checkdowns built into most plays. Fields doesnt like to take them as his preference is to attack downfield.
