Where to hire off duty police officers in Chicago

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I need to hire an off duty police officer to accompany one of our architects on site for a couple days in the Englewood area. I called the local precinct and they basically turn me to social media. I contacted multiple on-line security companies and filled out their forms but I'm not getting any replies. Any suggestions would be helpful.
 

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Is this a requirement of the company, or more likely, the company's insurance carrier?
 

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If it is that dangerous, why would you send one your people there? Not a good way to treat your employees. Money over people is not the way to go.
 

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If it is that dangerous, why would you send one your people there? Not a good way to treat your employees. Money over people is not the way to go.

The person in charge doesn't want to disappoint the boss.

So they do whatever is required unless someone dies or gets sexually assaulted.

And to be clear, remediation efforts in modern American workplaces handle things AFTER someone has died or experiences some kind of rape/sexual assault.

The Corporation has to respond or be held liable.

A lawsuit can be settled and you can be sure they have price tags on every single one, pre-determined and set to float along with current market conditions.

At this point most American companies are full of a rot that they began, propagated, and encouraged.

A rot in the core of the workforce that happens when you say point blank "You, your family, and your work, mean nothing and can be thrown away at a moments notice."

They think they were clever by turning workers into a "liquidity" which they can just pump from one Corp to the next.

By putting them all into a spreadsheet and developing ways to mass layoff people without speaking to them individually, the employers have created an environment where they purposefully poisoned the loyalty well.

Somehow they seem to have thought this process would work fine, because America liberated its Women to join the workforce and so now, with a bloated workforce you can pay far less on average, why WOULDN'T you consider all the workers as this grey genderless liquid resource you can pump in and out like ballast in a ship's hold?

But what they're finding, shockingly, is that Women in the American workforce are getting unhappy and disloyal to their employment when they start hitting the end of their natural fertility window.

Many of those successful Women bail on not only a job where you'd need a police escort in Englewood, but on ALL jobs.... including top paid female lawyers whose firms try desperately to keep these talented ladies.

But you know what these smart ladies figured out, much like their peers, albeit much faster (IMO)?

They figured out that working yourself to death (50-80 hrs a week) for a firm or company or corporation which only cares about profits now and profits future, becomes a pointless effort towards shoveling more dollars into the trough.

They figured out that they'd be much happier using their wealth on a simpler, smaller life, where they get to have a family they take care of, not a boss they coddle into his bonus nomnoms.

So now you have this grey genderless blob of workers, and they alienated a good half or more of the Men, because they underpaid us and pretended they could replace us.

And half or more of the Women have either figured out, or are coming to the conclusion that being a slave to a Corporation is far far worse than finding a Man for whom you must make a sandwich so he's got energy to do his job and protect/provide(for) his family.

I've been one of those Corpo wageslaves and I can tell you without a shadow of doubt in my mind.... this system is rotten and collapsing.

If you want a future of work that makes sense I would say this:

A Man has a duty to protect and provide for his family.

An Employer has a duty to protect and provide for its worker, because the workers make up the family which protects and provides for the economic well-being of the employer.

As soon as you cut the bond and say there's no reciprocal duty to one another, a relationship structure fails and the participants fail.
 

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I need to hire an off duty police officer to accompany one of our architects on site for a couple days in the Englewood area. I called the local precinct and they basically turn me to social media. I contacted multiple on-line security companies and filled out their forms but I'm not getting any replies. Any suggestions would be helpful.
For a completely unhelpful response
I had friend who hired odd duty cops to be his bouncers at his bar. No idea where he found them.
 

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The person in charge doesn't want to disappoint the boss.

So they do whatever is required unless someone dies or gets sexually assaulted.

And to be clear, remediation efforts in modern American workplaces handle things AFTER someone has died or experiences some kind of rape/sexual assault.

The Corporation has to respond or be held liable.

A lawsuit can be settled and you can be sure they have price tags on every single one, pre-determined and set to float along with current market conditions.

At this point most American companies are full of a rot that they began, propagated, and encouraged.

A rot in the core of the workforce that happens when you say point blank "You, your family, and your work, mean nothing and can be thrown away at a moments notice."

They think they were clever by turning workers into a "liquidity" which they can just pump from one Corp to the next.

By putting them all into a spreadsheet and developing ways to mass layoff people without speaking to them individually, the employers have created an environment where they purposefully poisoned the loyalty well.

Somehow they seem to have thought this process would work fine, because America liberated its Women to join the workforce and so now, with a bloated workforce you can pay far less on average, why WOULDN'T you consider all the workers as this grey genderless liquid resource you can pump in and out like ballast in a ship's hold?

But what they're finding, shockingly, is that Women in the American workforce are getting unhappy and disloyal to their employment when they start hitting the end of their natural fertility window.

Many of those successful Women bail on not only a job where you'd need a police escort in Englewood, but on ALL jobs.... including top paid female lawyers whose firms try desperately to keep these talented ladies.

But you know what these smart ladies figured out, much like their peers, albeit much faster (IMO)?

They figured out that working yourself to death (50-80 hrs a week) for a firm or company or corporation which only cares about profits now and profits future, becomes a pointless effort towards shoveling more dollars into the trough.

They figured out that they'd be much happier using their wealth on a simpler, smaller life, where they get to have a family they take care of, not a boss they coddle into his bonus nomnoms.

So now you have this grey genderless blob of workers, and they alienated a good half or more of the Men, because they underpaid us and pretended they could replace us.

And half or more of the Women have either figured out, or are coming to the conclusion that being a slave to a Corporation is far far worse than finding a Man for whom you must make a sandwich so he's got energy to do his job and protect/provide(for) his family.

I've been one of those Corpo wageslaves and I can tell you without a shadow of doubt in my mind.... this system is rotten and collapsing.

If you want a future of work that makes sense I would say this:

A Man has a duty to protect and provide for his family.

An Employer has a duty to protect and provide for its worker, because the workers make up the family which protects and provides for the economic well-being of the employer.

As soon as you cut the bond and say there's no reciprocal duty to one another, a relationship structure fails and the participants fail.
Sir, this is a wendys
 

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Lol so we should just never redevelop any areas in the hood?
You ever been on a jobsite and have an asshole pull a gun on you? I have and it's not fun. After my buddy and I got the gun from him we beat the fucker and called the cops.
When I got back to the shop I quit. Started my own shop a month after that. Ran that business for 30 years until I retired. Never sent an employee in to danger.
 

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You ever been on a jobsite and have an asshole pull a gun on you? I have and it's not fun. After my buddy and I got the gun from him we beat the fucker and called the cops.
When I got back to the shop I quit. Started my own shop a month after that. Ran that business for 30 years until I retired. Never sent an employee in to danger.
I've worked on multiple job sites in Englewood, Austin, south shore. You name it. I've never had a gun pulled on me there luckily. You hire private security at these sites and/or pay the local gangbangers to leave your site alone and provide "protection". One of the "security" teams we got (got shook down by a local gang basically) was a guy who sat in his Cadillac all day smoking blunts.

I can't believe your solution is to simply never do construction work in dangerous neighborhoods. That's just asinine. Talk about absolutely fucking over the less privileged.
 

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I am a bit surprised that the local police didn’t have a list of officers. I have a friend who works off duty, and I believe in uniform if necessary, frequently. He can get about as much work as he wants, I believe.
 

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I've worked on multiple job sites in Englewood, Austin, south shore. You name it. I've never had a gun pulled on me there luckily. You hire private security at these sites and/or pay the local gangbangers to leave your site alone and provide "protection". One of the "security" teams we got (got shook down by a local gang basically) was a guy who sat in his Cadillac all day smoking blunts.

I can't believe your solution is to simply never do construction work in dangerous neighborhoods. That's just asinine. Talk about absolutely fucking over the less privileged.
Job #1 is take care of yourself and your people. I'm not a social worker.
 

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Any suggestions would be helpful.

Try reaching out to the local Aldermen's office.

They are far more vested in new development than anyone in the police department, but still know all the right people.

 

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Job #1 is take care of yourself and your people. I'm not a social worker.
Hence why he is hiring security. You aren't a social worker, but it sounds like you're in the running for world's worst consultant for an engineering/architectural firm.

"So, it looks like we won some bids for jobs on the south and west side. Shut em down boys. We aren't stepping foot there. To hell with the revenue."
 

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I was pretty generic in OP. I was just looking for any recommendations regarding hiring off duty police officers. But since people are making assumptions I'll give you a little more detail. No, we do not send any of our guys to areas where we feel their safety is in jeopardy. Every so often we get a job in a neighborhood like this and my partner and I go and do these jobs. There have been a couple jobs in the past where even off duty officers don't want to go so we ended up passing on them. I don't know much about this exact neighborhood ( Ashland & 71st). Is it possible this is one of those neighborhoods where off duty officers don't want to work? I've contact at least 5 firms, you have to fill out and submit all the details of the jobsite, dates and what's expected of the guard or officer. So far I have not received any replies since early last week.
 

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I am a bit surprised that the local police didn’t have a list of officers. I have a friend who works off duty, and I believe in uniform if necessary, frequently. He can get about as much work as he wants, I believe.

Maybe that's the OP's problem.

High demand causing low supply in off-duty officers who want a side job where they must entertain the same risk as their normal job.

Not to mention you do it privately and you're not getting the same backup as if you were on duty.

I could imagine it being the case.
 

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Hence why he is hiring security. You aren't a social worker, but it sounds like you're in the running for world's worst consultant for an engineering/architectural firm.

"So, it looks like we won some bids for jobs on the south and west side. Shut em down boys. We aren't stepping foot there. To hell with the revenue."
You are an idiot. Sound just like tucky. Hire shit security and toss your guys into danger. Gotta get that revenue. Really doubt that your stupid ass has ever hired anybody except hookers. Probably gave him something that can't be cured.
 

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I am a bit surprised that the local police didn’t have a list of officers. I have a friend who works off duty, and I believe in uniform if necessary, frequently. He can get about as much work as he wants, I believe.
I contacted the local department and they told me there are off duty officers that do side jobs and retired officers that are in that line of work but it is not their place to put me in contact with them or advice me in any way other than social media and google searches.
 

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You are an idiot. Sound just like tucky. Hire shit security and toss your guys into danger. Gotta get that revenue. Really doubt that your stupid ass has ever hired anybody except hookers. Probably gave him something that can't be cured.
^didnt this clown used to be a mod? Good riddance.

The guy is sending an architect down there. Seems pretty obvious it is for some type of redevelopment. Your wimp (and despicable) ass would rather let the south and west side rot before sending anybody down there to do any construction, even with security. So we should just ignore developing the neighborhoods that are in serious need of some redevelopments? Fook right off m8.
 

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I contacted the local department and they told me there are off duty officers that do side jobs and retired officers that are in that line of work but it is not their place to put me in contact with them or advice me in any way other than social media and google searches.

A lot of union guidelines probably dictate such a response. Again, try going through the 16th ward Alder(wo)man's office. That's what they are there for.
 

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I contacted the local department and they told me there are off duty officers that do side jobs and retired officers that are in that line of work but it is not their place to put me in contact with them or advice me in any way other than social media and google searches.
yeah, o.k, probably can’t give out individual names.
 

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