Wild Card IST: Marlins AT Cubs

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Game 1 — Wednesday, Sept. 30 (1 p.m.)



Game 2 — Thursday, Oct. 1 (TBD)

Game 3 — Friday, Oct. 2 (TBD)







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Here is a position-by-position breakdown of their matchup.

Catcher

The Cubs have a stellar duo here. Willson Contreras has a rocket for an arm and big power in his bat, and he has been raking in September. Victor Caratini hasn’t hit much this year, but he's been behind the plate for every Yu Darvish start -- to great effect -- and has been one of the game’s top pitch framers. Miami’s Jorge Alfaro ranks at the bottom in that category and has struggled to get on base.

Advantage: Cubs

First base

Nobody can question Anthony Rizzo’s career accomplishments, but it hasn’t been a standout season for the three-time All-Star, whose .755 OPS includes a quiet September. Jesús Aguilar, on the other hand, has been a huge addition for Miami, posting a .277/.352/.457 slash line with 34 RBIs.

Slight advantage: Marlins

Second base

Jason Kipnis was a solid offseason pickup for the Cubs, posting his best offensive season since 2016, and he has postseason experience. Jon Berti has been an on-base machine for the Marlins (.388 OBP) -- especially of late -- and his elite sprint speed and status as a stolen base threat give him the edge here.

Advantage: Marlins

Shortstop

Going strictly by 2020 results would be a plus for the Marlins, with Miguel Rojas posting a career-best .888 OPS, albeit in only 40 games. Nobody can doubt Rojas’ importance to Miami, but while it’s been a trying season for Javier Báez, he remains a game-changing player at the plate, in the field and on the bases. Numbers aside, that can’t be ignored here.

Slight advantage: Cubs

Third base

As with Báez, there’s an issue of track record vs. 2020 results with Kris Bryant. His right oblique issue was more of a concern before he homered in back-to-back games to end the regular season, but even so, it’s not clear exactly what Chicago can expect from Bryant, who posted a .644 OPS this year. Meanwhile, Brian Anderson (.810 OPS) has been a very consistent performer the last few years and led Miami in homers (11) and RBIs (38).

Slight advantage: Marlins

Left field

Both Miami’s Corey Dickerson and Chicago’s Kyle Schwarber have solid hitting histories but have been below league average at the plate this season by OPS+. Schwarber’s struggles have been especially acute of late, but his big-time power (105 homers since 2017) is always lurking.

Advantage: Cubs

Center field

Ian Happ has been a driving force behind the Cubs’ offense, spending much of the season with an OPS over 1.000. But it’s been a strikeout-heavy struggle for Happ over the past few weeks, and while Starling Marte hasn’t exactly been hot at the plate since arriving in Miami, his strong all-around skills mean he can significantly impact the game even if he’s not hitting (assuming he’s OK after sustaining a left ear contusion when he was hit by a pitch Sunday).

Slight advantage: Marlins

Right field

Matt Joyce, the strong side of a Miami platoon with Lewis Brinson, is a solid veteran. But Jason Heyward, after scuffling at the plate for much of his Chicago tenure, has been a key piece of the lineup in 2020, with a .392 OBP and .456 slugging percentage.

Advantage: Cubs

Designated hitter

The Cubs often use Contreras or Caratini at DH when they aren’t catching, with Contreras doing much of his damage in that role (.992 OPS). Miami is likely to lean on Garrett Cooper, who had an .853 OPS and six homers in 34 games.

Advantage: Marlins

Starting rotation

As exciting as Marlins rookie Sixto Sánchez is, he allowed nine earned runs over seven innings in his last two starts, with six walks and only four strikeouts. That’s a concerning sign for a Miami rotation which may go with Sandy Alcantara in Game 1. The Cubs have the potential NL Cy Young Award winner in Darvish, plus another pitcher who may receive votes in Kyle Hendricks. Jon Lester doesn’t have great numbers this season, but he has a long and successful track record (2.51 ERA in 154 innings pitched) in the postseason

Advantage: Cubs

Bullpen

Despite a few strong individual seasons, including from closer Brandon Kintzler, Marlins relievers had the fifth-highest ERA (5.50) in the Majors. The club also lost a potential postseason bullpen contributor when right-hander José Ureña sustained a season-ending injury Sunday. The biggest question facing the Cubs is whether Craig Kimbrel can be the difference maker he’s been for much of his career. The veteran finished with only two saves, but after a rough start to 2020, he was almost unhittable over his final 14 outings, striking out 26 in that time.

Advantage: Cubs

Andrew Simon is a research analyst for MLB.com. Follow him on Twitter @AndrewSimonMLB.
 

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Here is a position-by-position breakdown of their matchup.

Catcher

The Cubs have a stellar duo here. Willson Contreras has a rocket for an arm and big power in his bat, and he has been raking in September. Victor Caratini hasn’t hit much this year, but he's been behind the plate for every Yu Darvish start -- to great effect -- and has been one of the game’s top pitch framers. Miami’s Jorge Alfaro ranks at the bottom in that category and has struggled to get on base.

Advantage: Cubs

First base

Nobody can question Anthony Rizzo’s career accomplishments, but it hasn’t been a standout season for the three-time All-Star, whose .755 OPS includes a quiet September. Jesús Aguilar, on the other hand, has been a huge addition for Miami, posting a .277/.352/.457 slash line with 34 RBIs.

Slight advantage: Marlins

Second base

Jason Kipnis was a solid offseason pickup for the Cubs, posting his best offensive season since 2016, and he has postseason experience. Jon Berti has been an on-base machine for the Marlins (.388 OBP) -- especially of late -- and his elite sprint speed and status as a stolen base threat give him the edge here.

Advantage: Marlins

Shortstop

Going strictly by 2020 results would be a plus for the Marlins, with Miguel Rojas posting a career-best .888 OPS, albeit in only 40 games. Nobody can doubt Rojas’ importance to Miami, but while it’s been a trying season for Javier Báez, he remains a game-changing player at the plate, in the field and on the bases. Numbers aside, that can’t be ignored here.

Slight advantage: Cubs

Third base

As with Báez, there’s an issue of track record vs. 2020 results with Kris Bryant. His right oblique issue was more of a concern before he homered in back-to-back games to end the regular season, but even so, it’s not clear exactly what Chicago can expect from Bryant, who posted a .644 OPS this year. Meanwhile, Brian Anderson (.810 OPS) has been a very consistent performer the last few years and led Miami in homers (11) and RBIs (38).

Slight advantage: Marlins

Left field

Both Miami’s Corey Dickerson and Chicago’s Kyle Schwarber have solid hitting histories but have been below league average at the plate this season by OPS+. Schwarber’s struggles have been especially acute of late, but his big-time power (105 homers since 2017) is always lurking.

Advantage: Cubs

Center field

Ian Happ has been a driving force behind the Cubs’ offense, spending much of the season with an OPS over 1.000. But it’s been a strikeout-heavy struggle for Happ over the past few weeks, and while Starling Marte hasn’t exactly been hot at the plate since arriving in Miami, his strong all-around skills mean he can significantly impact the game even if he’s not hitting (assuming he’s OK after sustaining a left ear contusion when he was hit by a pitch Sunday).

Slight advantage: Marlins

Right field

Matt Joyce, the strong side of a Miami platoon with Lewis Brinson, is a solid veteran. But Jason Heyward, after scuffling at the plate for much of his Chicago tenure, has been a key piece of the lineup in 2020, with a .392 OBP and .456 slugging percentage.

Advantage: Cubs

Designated hitter

The Cubs often use Contreras or Caratini at DH when they aren’t catching, with Contreras doing much of his damage in that role (.992 OPS). Miami is likely to lean on Garrett Cooper, who had an .853 OPS and six homers in 34 games.

Advantage: Marlins

Starting rotation

As exciting as Marlins rookie Sixto Sánchez is, he allowed nine earned runs over seven innings in his last two starts, with six walks and only four strikeouts. That’s a concerning sign for a Miami rotation which may go with Sandy Alcantara in Game 1. The Cubs have the potential NL Cy Young Award winner in Darvish, plus another pitcher who may receive votes in Kyle Hendricks. Jon Lester doesn’t have great numbers this season, but he has a long and successful track record (2.51 ERA in 154 innings pitched) in the postseason

Advantage: Cubs

Bullpen

Despite a few strong individual seasons, including from closer Brandon Kintzler, Marlins relievers had the fifth-highest ERA (5.50) in the Majors. The club also lost a potential postseason bullpen contributor when right-hander José Ureña sustained a season-ending injury Sunday. The biggest question facing the Cubs is whether Craig Kimbrel can be the difference maker he’s been for much of his career. The veteran finished with only two saves, but after a rough start to 2020, he was almost unhittable over his final 14 outings, striking out 26 in that time.

Advantage: Cubs

Andrew Simon is a research analyst for MLB.com. Follow him on Twitter @AndrewSimonMLB.

I would say Rizzos defense makes him on par with Aguilar right now. And I’d say DH is cubs advantage. I’d probably give the edge to the marlins at SS this season. Can’t make an impact on the bases when you’re not on base lol. Otherwise, I’d agree with how you framed it.
 

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I would say Rizzos defense makes him on par with Aguilar right now. And I’d say DH is cubs advantage. I’d probably give the edge to the marlins at SS this season. Can’t make an impact on the bases when you’re not on base lol. Otherwise, I’d agree with how you framed it.

It was a MLB writer. I'm thinking that he weighs 1B on O and SS on D.
 

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Over all this series is going to be about Yu and Kyle. It is what it is. The Cubs only will advance as far as their staff does. The biggest factor is the lacking of off days. Seeing a drop off after Kyle and no being able to hide start days will force lesser starters into duty.

That is the biggest flaw going in to the play offs.

Round 1 Cubs should sweep. They lose 1 then it is over.
 

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Can we have early season "MVP candidate" Happ back now please?
 

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Can we have early season "MVP candidate" Happ back now please?

Honestly I was pleased with Hamilton hitting 1 and Maybin hitting #2. It was a nice spark for the team.

Happ is a solid player but I noticed that his best production came in the 9 before Bryant's first injury.
 

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This series will tell us a lot about the Cubs. If we get knocked out by the Marlins of all teams, I think we need to blow it all up.
 

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Fla is not a team to sleep on. Very Scrappy
 

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This series will tell us a lot about the Cubs. If we get knocked out by the Marlins of all teams, I think we need to blow it all up.


There will be turn over regardless. The biggest challenge is going to be a lack of off days. So any team that can pull off a sweep and get a rotation reset will hold the advantage this year

Going into this series it feels a bit like 2003. We took Fla lite and they were fighters. This team has that same mentally. Cubs should flat sweep game 1-2 on paper. Games just don't play that way.

So all said and done this series really can't hurt next year. It can help if Alzolay keeps up his last start's level of pitching.

Hitting wise I feel that they should push Billy out there and move Happ to left. Billy on the bases is a huge distraction.
 

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Regardless there is going to be and should be some major turnover on the roster

Mmmm......I don't think so. Except for a few pitchers, most everyone is still under team control and with the way they all hit, they wouldn't get shit for them in a trade anyway. I think most of the same old gang is back....of course, depending how things play out....next year's trade deadline could be a really busy place for the Cubs.
 

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Mmmm......I don't think so. Except for a few pitchers, most everyone is still under team control and with the way they all hit, they wouldn't get shit for them in a trade anyway. I think most of the same old gang is back....of course, depending how things play out....next year's trade deadline could be a really busy place for the Cubs.

salary if nothing else will dictate changes IMO. And the team needs changes
 

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salary if nothing else will dictate changes IMO. And the team needs changes

No question about it. But they won't give these guys away.....real bad time for everyone to tank in unison. They're gonna have to keep them and hope they break out during 2021.....maybe in season deals or trade deadline at the latest.
 

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No question about it. But they won't give these guys away.....real bad time for everyone to tank in unison. They're gonna have to keep them and hope they break out during 2021.....maybe in season deals or trade deadline at the latest.


My feeling is the results will have little influence on the decision process. The decision process will be based off of business. Take Bryant. If he takes a team deal they will sign him. If he holds out then they will put him on the market. It will be the same for each case. We have Baez, Bryant, Rizzo and Schwarber all entering their final years and to be honest here. If they want to stay they need to take contracts like Rizzo and Hendricks did.

I just see this off season being a semi off load. Bryant had a bad market last year and his selling point was low. So he is a very likely.

Baez is unlikely. His market will suck and he would be better off extending vs entering with 4 other quality SS.

Rizzo to me is a leadership decision. He is the team leader and extending him is the better option.

Schwarber has been a disappointing player. Even hitting 40 HR really doesn't change that. We were expecting a hitter that would push .300 BA every year become a .230 hitter. I just believe that the team is better off with Happ in LF and targeting a CF.
 

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And yes. I would be in favor of Hamilton resigned and Schwarber traded. Even if the DH is established. Right now they have Contreras taking up 2/5ths of those PA's. Schwarber wound not be with the investment for 3/5 of a player.

I view it as you do not want to block Davis. He will be ready in 2022 so giving Billy is a far better option as in cost and need of a speed threat.
 

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Here is the Cubs' full Wild Card Series roster:

Pitchers (13): Jason Adam, Adbert Alzolay, Andrew Chafin, Yu Darvish, Kyle Hendricks, Jeremy Jeffress, Craig Kimbrel, Jon Lester, Alec Mills, José Quintana, Kyle Ryan, Ryan Tepera, Dan Winkler

Catchers (3): Victor Caratini, Willson Contreras, Josh Phegley

Infielders (7): Javier Báez, David Bote, Kris Bryant, Nico Hoerner, Jason Kipnis, Anthony Rizzo, Ildemaro Vargas

Outfielders (5): Billy Hamilton, Ian Happ, Jason Heyward, Cameron Maybin, Kyle Schwarber
 

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My feeling is the results will have little influence on the decision process. The decision process will be based off of business. Take Bryant. If he takes a team deal they will sign him. If he holds out then they will put him on the market. It will be the same for each case. We have Baez, Bryant, Rizzo and Schwarber all entering their final years and to be honest here. If they want to stay they need to take contracts like Rizzo and Hendricks did.

I just see this off season being a semi off load. Bryant had a bad market last year and his selling point was low. So he is a very likely.

Baez is unlikely. His market will suck and he would be better off extending vs entering with 4 other quality SS.

Rizzo to me is a leadership decision. He is the team leader and extending him is the better option.

Schwarber has been a disappointing player. Even hitting 40 HR really doesn't change that. We were expecting a hitter that would push .300 BA every year become a .230 hitter. I just believe that the team is better off with Happ in LF and targeting a CF.

do you mean final years as a cub? Or final years being good? If it’s the latter, you’re nuts lol
 

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