PeterMbangala
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So, we've spent the last couple of months arguing about taking a QB at 3 and the implications that would have for the franchise. We've discussed the viability of taking a safety, a TE and even a RB at 3. We've looked at trading down and staying pat. At this point, everyone is pretty set about what they would do and the reasons why.
I thought it might be worth looking at what you least want to happen and how badly Pace could screw this up, given that we are picking near the top of each round. Always a fun activity right?
My worst case scenario is probably...
[3] Leonard Fournette
[36] TJ Watt
[67] Brad Kaaya
With Fournette, it really isn't a knock on his talent because I think he is a top 10 prospect and his hands are better than you think. It's just as some point, need has to come into play. We are already struggling to get Howard enough carries, we've got a team that is going to be behind more often that not in the second half with a tough schedule this year. I just don't see the value. We are thin at the position in terms of quality but you don't take someone at 3 to use them as a back up for an injured player.
I do think TJ Watt is overhyped and I'm not sure how his play translates to the NFL level, despite the position being a need for us. Really though this pick could be called "any non-QB". If Pace passes on Watson, Trubisky, Kizer and Mahomes then he is really saying that Glennon is the guy and his job rests on Glennon being productive. This would scare the hell out of me.
Kaaya again is a player I don't like for us. We know that he's performed badly under pressure and he finds it difficult to navigate through the pocket and find a receiver under duress. It's debatable whether the poise and mobility needed to overcome this can be taught and we've heard the arguments for and against him on here already. Personally, I think mental make up and athletic ability are pretty much the two things you can't coach up at the position, so I'm not a fan. I also think that if you aren't going QB in the first two rounds (and I expect Peterman and Webb to go between 36 and 67), then I'd rather not go down the Dobbs, Kaaya route at all. You're already effectively committing to Glennon for two years even if you draft one in the first round in 2018 so Kaaya, Dobbs is really just an insurance policy against getting you fired rather than a legitimate prospect at the position.
Taken in its entirety, this draft would fail to improve the roster at the two biggest areas of need: QB and DB. We'd still have no leader on offense or defense, no real identity (unless you call a run the ball and PA to mediocre receivers an identity) and no clear direction from the front office.
It also provides us with three players that could all bust out. As much as Allen wouldn't be a sexy pick, you know that he will be a solid to elite day one pro at his position, more likely than not. Fournette, Watt and Kaaya not only don't make the team better day 1, but I think there's a good chance Fournette is the only one in the NFL in four years.
Anyway, what would be your worst case scenario?
I thought it might be worth looking at what you least want to happen and how badly Pace could screw this up, given that we are picking near the top of each round. Always a fun activity right?
My worst case scenario is probably...
[3] Leonard Fournette
[36] TJ Watt
[67] Brad Kaaya
With Fournette, it really isn't a knock on his talent because I think he is a top 10 prospect and his hands are better than you think. It's just as some point, need has to come into play. We are already struggling to get Howard enough carries, we've got a team that is going to be behind more often that not in the second half with a tough schedule this year. I just don't see the value. We are thin at the position in terms of quality but you don't take someone at 3 to use them as a back up for an injured player.
I do think TJ Watt is overhyped and I'm not sure how his play translates to the NFL level, despite the position being a need for us. Really though this pick could be called "any non-QB". If Pace passes on Watson, Trubisky, Kizer and Mahomes then he is really saying that Glennon is the guy and his job rests on Glennon being productive. This would scare the hell out of me.
Kaaya again is a player I don't like for us. We know that he's performed badly under pressure and he finds it difficult to navigate through the pocket and find a receiver under duress. It's debatable whether the poise and mobility needed to overcome this can be taught and we've heard the arguments for and against him on here already. Personally, I think mental make up and athletic ability are pretty much the two things you can't coach up at the position, so I'm not a fan. I also think that if you aren't going QB in the first two rounds (and I expect Peterman and Webb to go between 36 and 67), then I'd rather not go down the Dobbs, Kaaya route at all. You're already effectively committing to Glennon for two years even if you draft one in the first round in 2018 so Kaaya, Dobbs is really just an insurance policy against getting you fired rather than a legitimate prospect at the position.
Taken in its entirety, this draft would fail to improve the roster at the two biggest areas of need: QB and DB. We'd still have no leader on offense or defense, no real identity (unless you call a run the ball and PA to mediocre receivers an identity) and no clear direction from the front office.
It also provides us with three players that could all bust out. As much as Allen wouldn't be a sexy pick, you know that he will be a solid to elite day one pro at his position, more likely than not. Fournette, Watt and Kaaya not only don't make the team better day 1, but I think there's a good chance Fournette is the only one in the NFL in four years.
Anyway, what would be your worst case scenario?
