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That´s how we do it in Europe under the FIBA!
In the NBA the Ball has to be out completely I think.
That´s how we do it in Europe under the FIBA!
In the NBA the Ball has to be out completely I think.
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I've wanted to change that rule to the FIBA rule for a while now. Just think if something like this happened in the playoffs.......vs. Miami.
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Easy...if Miami did it, it's fine, otherwise it's basket interference. :dunno:
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They only reviewed it because Denver called timeout and complained...could we have done the same in Koufos's case?
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Well ya, but I'm really talking about the media reaction. Miami might be the media darlings, but if something like this were to happen in the ECF resulting in a Bulls 1pt loss, I'd think that maybe we'd see the NBA mulling a change? I think the pressure would be too great.
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:nope:
The fan response might not be so hot but I don't think anything would change...
I could just be being pessimistic though.
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I don't like the FIBA rule.
The refs got the call right. They missed the same call earlier in the game, which makes it frustrating, because now you send the wrong signal. If they aren't going to call it earlier in the game, then they shouldn't have called it on Jo. It's that simple.
The refs got the call right. They missed the same call earlier in the game, which makes it frustrating, because now you send the wrong signal. If they aren't going to call it earlier in the game, then they shouldn't have called it on Jo. It's that simple.
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Then they must call all the lobs as goaltending. The ball didn't touch the rim. The basket should have counted + 1 assist @marco
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Goal-tending/Offensive basket interference is either;
a.) Interference of a shot that is on the way down and headed for the cylinder. Cylinder meaning, not JUST the rim, but very specifically, the inner circle of the basket itself.
b.) Interference of a ball that is above the rim of the basket.
Noah's was definitely (B), and arguably (A) because it was clearly short. So it is clear interference on one part. There is no way to argue against it. And yes, the refs are inconsistent with interference calls on alley-oops that are headed for the cylinder. Every so many years, the interference issue comes up. But it's not always a problem. For the most part, if refs are consistent with calls, and they are accurate with illegal positioning(3-seconds) calls, the interference problem becomes extremely rare.
The NBA's problem, is they have a hard time weeding out bad refs.
a.) Interference of a shot that is on the way down and headed for the cylinder. Cylinder meaning, not JUST the rim, but very specifically, the inner circle of the basket itself.
b.) Interference of a ball that is above the rim of the basket.
Noah's was definitely (B), and arguably (A) because it was clearly short. So it is clear interference on one part. There is no way to argue against it. And yes, the refs are inconsistent with interference calls on alley-oops that are headed for the cylinder. Every so many years, the interference issue comes up. But it's not always a problem. For the most part, if refs are consistent with calls, and they are accurate with illegal positioning(3-seconds) calls, the interference problem becomes extremely rare.
The NBA's problem, is they have a hard time weeding out bad refs.
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Never mind, you beat me to it.
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i honestly dont see how its a basket interference...i thought the ball had to touch/be on the rim...in this case the ball hadn't even reach it yet...whats the difference between that and a alley oop?
i guess they are really specific with it
oh well it was a badly reffed game...we just ended up with the short end of the stick
i guess they are really specific with it
oh well it was a badly reffed game...we just ended up with the short end of the stick
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http://blogs.bulls.com/2013/03/bulls-lose-to-nuggets-and-officials-in-overtime/
Sums it up well. Officials reviewed a play they had not called anything on, so that's the real issue. Going back to Koufos, they didn't review that to take it away because they made on call on the play. They did the same thing here, but they took the basket away. So regardless of whether or not it was basket interference (and by the rules it should've been I guess), it should not have been reviewed if the other play was not reviewed. The inconsistency is the issue, not necessarily the call.
Sums it up well. Officials reviewed a play they had not called anything on, so that's the real issue. Going back to Koufos, they didn't review that to take it away because they made on call on the play. They did the same thing here, but they took the basket away. So regardless of whether or not it was basket interference (and by the rules it should've been I guess), it should not have been reviewed if the other play was not reviewed. The inconsistency is the issue, not necessarily the call.
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The refs can review the last score or touched-ball(out of bounds) during the respective intermission(time out, end of period). The last score does not need an official call on the floor, its the other way around(official makes a call if it's not a score on the floor). I don't know what Sam Smith is smoking. But then again, nobody really knows what Sam Smith has been smoking for about 20 years.
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Eh...whatever. One game isn't gonna mean anything. Just another game on the losing streak.
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Yeah, I don't mean to be persistent about it. But between Stacey's call and a lot of misinformation(like Sam Smith, and it seems like every sports anchor on local TV), it's making Bulls fans look really uneducated about well established rules. It's not rules about body-foul interpretations or something with a big gray area that takes the experience of good referees to sift through. Interference calls are pretty straight forward.
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I saw 2 shots via twitter and one was interference and one was not. To me it was a judgement call if anything. I show showed it was going to be an airball, the other one showed it was gunna hit the rim. Both from the same angles. But like King said, if Noah dunks the ball, there's no call and Bulls win.
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There HASN´T BEEN a call! That´s the point!
Of course it was offensive interference, but the refs are only allowed to review it when they called it, what they didn´t.
That´s what everybody from the Bulls stuff is saying.
Of course it was offensive interference, but the refs are only allowed to review it when they called it, what they didn´t.
That´s what everybody from the Bulls stuff is saying.
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I don't think it matters that much; you can blame the loss on Noah for allowing McGee to just absolutely #### on him earlier. I do.
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You could blame it on allowing anyone to score one more basket than they did...
