2009 Free Agency

Basghetti80 · Mar 30, 2009

I would like to hear some thoughts on some lower level Free agents this year that might interest you. This of course is assuming Gordon walks. If that happens then Hinrich is only backup on the roster behind Salmons, Deng and Rose. Who are some guys that interest you and why?

Jannero Pargo
Ime Udoka
Stephen Graham
James Singleton
Trevor Ariza

Others?

Morten Jensen · Mar 30, 2009

Anthony Roberson is under contract (unguarenteed) next season at just over 800K - So I won't look after a 3-point specialist this summer. A defensive minded forward would be nice to have around. In general, I'd like to add more defenders to this team. Be that youngsters or veterans. We need all the defensive help we can get.

JStuNNa · Mar 30, 2009

I'm guesing we're not going to be big players in free agency this summer, even MLE type of players since we're in 2010 mode. However, I love Trevor Ariza. Especially if Gordon leaves. I think Ariza is close to being a full MLE player though and I doubt the Bulls are looking to shell out that kind of money.

Ime Udoka is probably a cheaper option though that would make sense.

I think the Bulls are looking to make a big splash this summer though. Bulls really have some appealing assets and if the Raptors and Suns don't think believe they can keep Bosh or Amare the Bulls will definitely be in the running for those players.

JStuNNa · Mar 30, 2009

Morten Jensen wrote:

Anthony Roberson is under contract (unguarenteed) next season at just over 800K - So I won't look after a 3-point specialist this summer. A defensive minded forward would be nice to have around. In general, I'd like to add more defenders to this team. Be that youngsters or veterans. We need all the defensive help we can get.

You talkin a wing forward or power forward? I don't see where we would have room for another big since we have an inside rotation of Tyrus/Noah/Miller. But if you're talking on the wing, then I like a player like Udoka.

Ralphb07 · Mar 30, 2009

None. If we don't make a trade for Bosh or Amare we should just use our two 1st on players and maybe even trade Kirk for a back up PG or a 1st and a expiring deal. Our goal is to try and land rotation players in this draft and still keep the flexibility for moves in the future

Jamfan · Mar 30, 2009

I think we need to find a way to land Amare or Bosh whether it be next year via trade or in 2010. Hopefully we can get Gordon locked up over the summer and find a way to deal Hinrich ,Deng, or both.

2010:
PG: Rose
SG: Gordon
SF: Salmons
PF: Amare or Bosh
C: Noah/Asik

Morten Jensen · Mar 30, 2009

JStuNNa wrote:

You talkin a wing forward or power forward? I don't see where we would have room for another big since we have an inside rotation of Tyrus/Noah/Miller. But if you're talking on the wing, then I like a player like Udoka.

I was actually thinking a combo forward. Sort of like Tim Thomas with defense. A guy who can switch and cover two positions. Those players are very rare, and probably won't be available in free agency. But if we can find a decent defender with size, I'd love to look into it.

Ralphb07 · Mar 30, 2009

Morten Jensen wrote:

Anthony Roberson is under contract (unguarenteed) next season at just over 800K - So I won't look after a 3-point specialist this summer. A defensive minded forward would be nice to have around. In general, I'd like to add more defenders to this team. Be that youngsters or veterans. We need all the defensive help we can get.

We can get that defensive minded SG/SF in the draft and it would be a lot cheaper. Terrance Williams would be a nice pick up with one of our 1st. He's good size and seems to do it all.

I'm really excited about this draft. I know there isn't going be star players we can get but we should be able to land 2 cheap contracts and guys that can be rotation guys. Paxson has always drafted well and with having the core somewhat intact he can add players that fit certain needs.

This is why even if we lose Gordon Kirk should be dealt. Trade Kirk for a mid to late 1st and pick up one of these young PG in the draft.

JStuNNa · Mar 30, 2009

Morten Jensen wrote:

JStuNNa wrote:

You talkin a wing forward or power forward? I don't see where we would have room for another big since we have an inside rotation of Tyrus/Noah/Miller. But if you're talking on the wing, then I like a player like Udoka.

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I was actually thinking a combo forward. Sort of like Tim Thomas with defense. A guy who can switch and cover two positions. Those players are very rare, and probably won't be available in free agency. But if we can find a decent defender with size, I'd love to look into it.

Yeah I'm lookin over the 09 list now and it's very short on that kind of player lol. Brandon Bass kinda sticks out. He's an interior play though.

Hawkfanwillie07 · Mar 30, 2009

I wouldnt mind the Bulls taking a look at Zaza.

Ralphb07 · Mar 30, 2009

DerrickRose1 wrote:

I think we need to find a way to land Amare or Bosh whether it be next year via trade or in 2010. Hopefully we can get Gordon locked up over the summer and find a way to deal Hinrich ,Deng, or both.

2010:
PG: Rose
SG: Gordon
SF: Salmons
PF: Amare or Bosh
C: Noah/Asik

I think the only player we can trade for is Bosh. When the Suns decided not to trade Stoudemire @ the deadline when they would of got the most savings it was done. Nash and Shaq will be gone after next year and they will be able to build the team around Amare. The main reason to deal him was to save money and they can't really save enough money to make it worth trading him now

Bosh I'm not sure what's going to happen with him and what Toronto would want. They could easily make a play for Gordon and try to keep Bosh that way. It also depends on what type of coach they can get. If they land Gordon and bring in a big name coach Bosh might stick it out with them or they could just pull a Lakers and Kobe 4 years ago when they said they wouldn't agree to any sign and trades making it hard for Kobe to leave that much on the table.

IMO we will be going with the same team minus Ben and maybe Kirk which I'm okay with. Deng is still young and I don't mind going with a Rose-Deng-Tyrus-Noah and just saving money.Every year it seems like a really good player comes available and it would be wise for us to stay under the cap or def the Luxury Tax so we can make that deal when it happens

Morten Jensen · Mar 30, 2009

Ralphb07 wrote:

I think the only player we can trade for is Bosh. When the Suns decided not to trade Stoudemire @ the deadline when they would of got the most savings it was done. Nash and Shaq will be gone after next year and they will be able to build the team around Amare. The main reason to deal him was to save money and they can't really save enough money to make it worth trading him now

Two things;

1. I would prefer Bosh over Amare every day of the week, so that might not be a bad thing if he's the 'easiest' to acquire.

2. Phoenix is bleeding. Badly. The odds heavily favour Amare being available in a trade this summer.

I would obviously prefer Amare as opposed to no one, but if we can pick one of them, Bosh should be our guy. He doesn't have the injury concerns, attitude concerns, and he even plays better defense. Though, that's not saying much.

Bullsman24 · Mar 30, 2009

and amare might not be as effective outside of a run n gun system, because he relies so much on his athleticism.

also, this could shorten his career.

Basghetti80 · Mar 30, 2009

Obviously if we let Gordon walk and then keep Tyrus and Noah and make no trade then our draft picks fill in rotation spots and make this topic moot. But if we trade for Amare or Bosh then at least one if not both 1st rd picks will be in that trade which means if we let Gordon walk after the trade then at least 1 and maybe 2 guys need to be signed to fill in which is the main reason I made this post. For example:

Gordon walks, we trade Tyrus, James, both 1st rd picks for Amare.

Then we can perhaps sign a guy like Udoka in FA and another guard like Stephen Graham or someone along those lines.

Rose,Hinrich,Roberson
Salmons,Graham
Deng,Udoka
Amare,Tim Thomas
Noah,Miller,Gray

That is 12 guys so you still need to add one more player perhaps someone on a non guaranteed deal.

ryguy24 · Mar 30, 2009

Birdman will be a FA right? Probably too expensive for us (not that we really have a big need for what he does anyways)?

Ralphb07 · Mar 30, 2009

Morten Jensen wrote:

Ralphb07 wrote:

I think the only player we can trade for is Bosh. When the Suns decided not to trade Stoudemire @ the deadline when they would of got the most savings it was done. Nash and Shaq will be gone after next year and they will be able to build the team around Amare. The main reason to deal him was to save money and they can't really save enough money to make it worth trading him now

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Two things;

1. I would prefer Bosh over Amare every day of the week, so that might not be a bad thing if he's the 'easiest' to acquire.

2. Phoenix is bleeding. Badly. The odds heavily favour Amare being available in a trade this summer

I would obviously prefer Amare as opposed to no one, but if we can pick one of them, Bosh should be our guy. He doesn't have the injury concerns, attitude concerns, and he even plays better defense. Though, that's not saying much.

What I meant is I don't think we have a shot at Amare anymore. When the Suns decided not to trade him at the deadline to save all that money it pretty much killed teams that aren't under the cap to get him.

Why would Suns trade him this summer not being able to really save money unless that team is under the cap and can absorb a contract to free up money for the Suns

Why would they take Tyrus which will be a FA in 2010 and they would have to re sign him or lose him. There better off just taking the chance on Amare. They also won't be hurting when Nash and Shaq are gone and can just as easily trade Jrich before they deal Amare.

I can see maybe a deal with the Pistons since they will be under the cap and can take on Amare contract and give the Suns cheap players and their pick saving the Suns money next year.

I think our only shot is Bosh and it's 50/50 right now

Morten Jensen · Mar 30, 2009

Ralphb07 wrote:

What I meant is I don't think we have a shot at Amare anymore. When the Suns decided not to trade him at the deadline to save all that money it pretty much killed teams that aren't under the cap to get him.

Why would Suns trade him this summer not being able to really save money unless that team is under the cap and can absorb a contract to free up money for the Suns

Why would they take Tyrus which will be a FA in 2010 and they would have to re sign him or lose him. There better off just taking the chance on Amare. They also won't be hurting when Nash and Shaq are gone and can just as easily trade Jrich before they deal Amare.

I can see maybe a deal with the Pistons since they will be under the cap and can take on Amare contract and give the Suns cheap players and their pick saving the Suns money next year.

I think our only shot is Bosh and it's 50/50 right now

You misunderstood.

I'm not saying we could easily get Amare. I'm saying he's going to be available. Period. If we somehow make an offer (through a three-team trade or whatever) that saves Phoenix money and gives them picks and young talent, then I think he's available. I also think teams with cap space have a good crack at him.

Phoenix is going nowhere, and Amare is their best trading chip. They are not fond of him right now, and he wants to go somewhere else. If he re-signs with Phoenix and remain with that club, I'll be very surprised.

Dpauley23 · Mar 30, 2009

They better trade Amare because I can see Sarver declining Nash option

Newskoolbulls · Mar 30, 2009

Ariza is going to get some ridiculous contract he doesn't deserve, thank God it wont be from us.

Dpauley23 · Mar 30, 2009

I heard that he could go to the Cavs.

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