Sammy Watkins vs Mike Evans

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RisWell said:
I like Evans but this poster is right. It's not even close.

Can't believe so many people are picking Evans based on he is 3 inches taller.
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3 Inches taller than Sammy.. but also about 5 inches taller than your average corner back with much longer arms... he also weighed in around 230lbs at the combine... and ran a 4.53 forty... and he led the SEC in TDS and had 20.2 YPC... he is also a great blocker which NFL teams will like...

Watkins is a stud no doubt... but I don't know if I can pass on monster 3rd down and red zone target like Evans...

It might depend on what type of team you are trying to build... for instance the Rams have Tavon Austin... fast route running playmaker... But not a big fast physical 3rd down guy... they might opt for the bigger guy to compliment Austin and take advantage of mismatches where as a team like the Raiders might take Watkins because they need a sure thing play maker on the offensive side of the ball...
 

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Chris Sojka said:
3 Inches taller than Sammy.. but also about 5 inches taller than your average corner back with much longer arms... he also weighed in around 230lbs at the combine... and ran a 4.53 forty... and he led the SEC in TDS and had 20.2 YPC... he is also a great blocker which NFL teams will like...

Watkins is a stud no doubt... but I don't know if I can pass on monster 3rd down and red zone target like Evans...
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Mike. Williams.

6'5", 4.5 forty, 38" vert, long arms, unstoppable freakmonsterfreakazoid red zone target, blah blah blah...bigger is not always better.

Watkins is head and shoulders the better WR.
 

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Watkins and it's not even close
 

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fatbeard said:
Mike. Williams.

6'5", 4.5 forty, 38" vert, long arms, unstoppable freakmonsterfreakazoid red zone target, blah blah blah...bigger is not always better.

Watkins is head and shoulders the better WR.
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What world do you live in?
 
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Watkins reminds me in a lot of ways of Hopkins in Houston. Evans reminds me of a poor mans Michael Floyd. Not quite as fast or as athletic.
 

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Chris Sojka said:
What world do you live in?
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One governed by reason and evidence, and not silly meatball tropes. I'd invite you to visit, but you have to have a vocabulary capable of describing a good prospect as something other than a "beast," a "monster," a "freak," or a "stud," in order to get in.
 
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Matt Miller said Watkins is the best WR he's scouted since Megatron...not saying his word is the bible, but interesting.


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Watkins is a more explosive Reggie Wayne.



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fatbeard said:
One governed by reason and evidence, and not silly meatball tropes. I'd invite you to visit, but you have to have a vocabulary capable of describing a good prospect as something other than a "beast," a "monster," a "freak," or a "stud," in order to get in.
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I just stated the evidence... He led the SEC in TDs and had 20 ypc ... isn't that evidence enough...

You are a mainstream media meatball... Just regurgitate everything you hear on ESPN... I bet you didn't like Burfict or Mathieu either... I bet you were in the ALshon is overweight and fat camp too...
 

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Wild_x_Card said:
Watkins reminds me in a lot of ways of Hopkins in Houston. Evans reminds me of a poor mans Michael Floyd. Not quite as fast or as athletic.
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Evans is super athletic... maybe you haven't watched any film or done your research but the talk on him is that he is just about as athletic as you can get for a guy his size... The only thing he is lacking is Calvin Johnson speed... He has great hands, great size, solid route running, great technique, great vertical, physical, willing blocker on running plays...
 
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Chris Sojka said:
Evans is super athletic... maybe you haven't watched any film or done your research but the talk on him is that he is just about as athletic as you can get for a guy his size... The only thing he is lacking is Calvin Johnson speed... He has great hands, great size, solid route running, great technique, great vertical, physical, willing blocker on running plays...
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By athletic I meant sudden like Floyd, not as much quick twitch if you will. Not saying he doesn't have athletic ability
 
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RisWell said:
Watkins is a more explosive Reggie Wayne.




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Lofty comparison. Wayne is a monster and routinely makes the impossible look easy.
Not sure if Watkins has those kinda dynamic hands and body control, very few do. For example. Alshon is one of the few
 
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you all remember the draft we were pining for johnny knox? things have changed...
 

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Lofty comparison. Wayne is a monster and routinely makes the impossible look easy.
Not sure if Watkins has those kinda dynamic hands and body control, very few do. For example. Alshon is one of the few
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Well Watkins won't have the luxury of having Peyton from day 1 so forget about Wayne.

Watkins reminds me of a more complete Demarius Thomas. Thomas is 6-3 but he doesn't go up and get it like your taller receivers.
 
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RisWell said:
Well Watkins won't have the luxury of having Peyton from day 1 so forget about Wayne.

Watkins reminds me of a more complete Demarius Thomas. Thomas is 6-3 but he doesn't go up and get it like your taller receivers.
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Thomas is a good comparison in that a large part of both their game is YAC. They both have the ability to take a screen and just boot it.
 

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Chris Sojka said:
I just stated the evidence... He led the SEC in TDs and had 20 ypc ... isn't that evidence enough...
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Oh boy, we're playing "stats without context" again! So, since Kelcy Quarels had more sacks than Jadeveon Clowney, he is the better prospect and should be drafted higher, right? And since Michael Sam led the SEC in sacks, that's evidence enough that he's the best defense player in the SEC, right?

I'm curious: Does it hurt? Does complex thinking really induce physical pain, and is that why you avoid it?

Chris Sojka said:
You are a mainstream media meatball... Just regurgitate everything you hear on ESPN
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I don't watch ESPN. I don't even have the cable channel anymore. Try again.

Also, not sure if you actually comprehend the meatball meme. Maybe ask someone.

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... I bet you didn't like Burfict or Mathieu either... I bet you were in the ALshon is overweight and fat camp too...
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You're absolutely right; I didn't like any of them. Point of fact though, I also didn't follow those drafts, so I didn't dislike them either. Sorry, try again.
 

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sure Evans is big, can go up and get it and could be really good but this is not even close...

Watkins. he is one of the best prospects in this draft period, let alone the top WR. seen a lot of writers call him the second best player in this entire draft... oh and he is not small either...
 

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Doubledown said:
you all remember the draft we were pining for johnny knox? things have changed...
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For a 5th round pick Knox actually turned out to be a nice player. He was thrust into a #1 role when he shouldn't have been. Ideally he would have been a nice #2 or #3.
 
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