Diddy1122
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The trade for Charlotte's pick was made the day before the draft, so YES, the Lakers DID draft Kobe.
The trade for Charlotte's pick was made the day before the draft, so YES, the Lakers DID draft Kobe.
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Hilarious. Come back and compare him to Jordan, when he averages over 30ppg in his career. Taking a Scoring Title and DPOY in the same season, go undefeated in the finals. I can go on and on
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This is the biggest line of bullshit that Lakers fans spew. Magic was only 31 when MJ handed him his ass in the finals. 31 aint old-especially for a player who played 3 years in college.
Oh, and that last MVP Magic won should have an asterisk next to it, because it rightfully belonged to the player who was both the scoring champ, and DPOY that year.
Jordan, a guard, dominated the greatest era of big men the NBA has ever seen. That Bulls team-esp the second 3 peat would have owned the 70's and 80's. The Lakers would have only been a foot note in that team's story-as they were in 91
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Huh?
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HUH?!?!?!
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WHY ARE YOU TALKING?!?!?
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I agree with that.
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Ha ha. Good grief. Lakers fans...wow.
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No. The facts, aka official statistics, show Jordan is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Kobe on offense and defense in the clutch. The only argument is opinion based that ignores the stats, or your an L.A. Homer. Very few Lakers fans in SoCal think Jordan is better than Kobe, its sad that they don't understand the stats behind the argument
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Sorry you can't handle the truth but the 80's Lakers would have crushed any of the bulls championship teams. Don't confuse 91 with the Lakers in the 80's...not even close to the same team. Who would have guarded Kareem? Bill Cartwright....LMAO. 80's teams were deeper, and better. Expansion in the late 80's watered the league down. Jordan entered the league in 85....remind me again how many rings he had during the 80's?
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Very few Laker fans believe Kobe is better than Jordan, you have it mixed up. Kobe isn't even the best Laker of all-time.
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I don't understand the significance of this list. Are we talking about overall greatness and contributions while being in a Laker uniform? Or are we ranking how good each of the players were while in a Laker uniform(especially looking at their best seasons)?
If it's the former, then Kobe should definitely be above Wilt and Kareem.
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One reason those other players aren't viewed more favorably they were routinely denied by Jordan. It's kind of a dumb circular argument to say championships define greatness with players and then try to argue against the very player who was denying them championships.
Also, Kobe went into pout mode in a game 7 one year to prove a point. What kind of weak bitch bullsh*t is that! Only a complete jackass would try to defend that.
Whenever Jordan played on a team that had home court advantage, his teams always won. Similarly, whenever Jordan played on teams that were good enough to make it to the finals, they always won. In 1993, when the Suns and Knicks had more regular season wins. Both lost to the Bulls. In the finals when the Suns were a perceived threat, Jordan had the highest PPG avg in the history of the NBA finals.
In 1989, when Jordan hit the shot over Ehlo, most people don't remember or realize that Jordan hit, what should have been the winner with 6 seconds left. So when Jordan hit the game winner over Ehlo, not only did he have to duplicate what he'd already done seconds before but he had to do it with a higher degree of difficulty.
Around 04/05, they changed the rules to make it easier for perimeter players to score. Also, Jordan was never a Robin. Also, Jordan has the best ppg in the history of the game while playing with hand checking and that other crap but his ppg in the playoffs are actually higher.
Kobe's a cheap knockoff in all respects. And don't tell me about outside shooting. Jordan didn't have to shoot from so far away. And yes this matters. Jordan is probably the best offensive threat in NBA history in the paint. I'll take that any day over the shots Kobe takes and mostly doesn't make.
Also, Kobe went into pout mode in a game 7 one year to prove a point. What kind of weak bitch bullsh*t is that! Only a complete jackass would try to defend that.
Whenever Jordan played on a team that had home court advantage, his teams always won. Similarly, whenever Jordan played on teams that were good enough to make it to the finals, they always won. In 1993, when the Suns and Knicks had more regular season wins. Both lost to the Bulls. In the finals when the Suns were a perceived threat, Jordan had the highest PPG avg in the history of the NBA finals.
In 1989, when Jordan hit the shot over Ehlo, most people don't remember or realize that Jordan hit, what should have been the winner with 6 seconds left. So when Jordan hit the game winner over Ehlo, not only did he have to duplicate what he'd already done seconds before but he had to do it with a higher degree of difficulty.
Around 04/05, they changed the rules to make it easier for perimeter players to score. Also, Jordan was never a Robin. Also, Jordan has the best ppg in the history of the game while playing with hand checking and that other crap but his ppg in the playoffs are actually higher.
Kobe's a cheap knockoff in all respects. And don't tell me about outside shooting. Jordan didn't have to shoot from so far away. And yes this matters. Jordan is probably the best offensive threat in NBA history in the paint. I'll take that any day over the shots Kobe takes and mostly doesn't make.
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False. Jordan was demolishing elite scoring bigs (Robinson, Ewing, Hakeem, Mutumbo, Malone, Shaq-ie: the greatest era of bugs the league has ever seen)
Those Bulls teams, running Jackson's triangle, would have wiped the floor with Magic, Kareem, and the rest of the Lake show.
Jordan was the best player in the league in the 80's. But he was on an island.
I don't know what is more pathetic-Lakers fans and their cooked up "they were old" excuse, or Celtics fans and their Len Bias BS.
Speaking of Bias-if he did not have the mental toughness to keep his nose out of the booger sugar, he did not have the mental toughness to compete consistently with Jordan.
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What do the Lakers of the 80s have to do with Kobe?
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Just a minor point but I think that Bryant actually hurt his legend status by patterning himself so much like Jordan in his mannerisms. It is one thing to admire how a guy plays but trying to become a clone of someone is pretty ridiculous.
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I guess you are referring to the 91 team? Where did i saw they were old? I said they weren't the same team, meaning players retired/moved on. You're basing your argument on the bulls beating the 91 lakers who had Vlade Divac as their starting center. So your argument is not valid, unless you think Vlade was as good or better than Kareem...is that it?
Honestly those Bulls teams would never have handled the front court of the Lakers, or Celtics for that matter. The Lakers were better at nearly every position and deeper. Again, please tell me how Jordan was the best player in the 80's when Magic and Bird were winning rings and MVP's. How do can you make a statement like that? It would be equivalent to me saying Shaq was the best player of the 90's.
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Why do Bulls fans have to be so defensive about Kobe and his accomplishments? I would think having a player that so respected and closely emulated an all time great from your team from the time he was a teenager would be a compliment, not an opportunity to bash the guy. And it hasn't been one-sided, Jordan has returned that respect many times since day one. I don't know, would you prefer a comparison to a guy who just coasts on physical ability like 90% of todays NBA stars, instead of skill and hard work? I just don't get it, they're both greats.
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Kobe is a great. I agree. I just don't agree that Kobe is better than Jordan, or that it's even fair to say so, other than to promote the NBA. People just need to live with the fact that it will take a lot more than ESPN home-made hyped GOATS to knock MJ off the mountain.
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Kobe is a great player in his own right, he's just not better than Jordan overall.
