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I wonder if that "longtime defensive coach" referenced in the story is Vic Fangio or some other Bears assistant.
Dan Pompei: Does Matt Barkley have what it takes to make it in the NFL?
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That would be pretty interesting if Fangio was quoted.
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My sauces say there are two teams preparing massive, poison pill contracts for Barkely that could be worth as much as $75mm guaranteed. Some guy named ChicagoFlordiaGatorLandMike told me.
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So does half the fuckin' board. Take all of it with a grain of salt.
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kyle orton used to start for us......good times for bathroom breaks when offense was on the field
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The guy has enough arm and he's not afraid out there. I think he still needs some work on mechanics. It's really difficult to judge whether you want to put all of the eggs in that basket. I think there are a few teams who might throw money at him.
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Was listening to Durkin on ESPN 1000 and he made an interesting point.
He said that he would be surprised if the Bears did not draft a QB really high. He said that jobs will be defined and lost by the QB position, especially coming off of the Cutler era and everyone sensitivity about the QB position.
He said they will want options and as much talent as possible at the QB position so they can point to the future.
His main point was as much as Barkley has played well there is no way you can bet your job on 6 games by Barkley.
He said that he would be surprised if the Bears did not draft a QB really high. He said that jobs will be defined and lost by the QB position, especially coming off of the Cutler era and everyone sensitivity about the QB position.
He said they will want options and as much talent as possible at the QB position so they can point to the future.
His main point was as much as Barkley has played well there is no way you can bet your job on 6 games by Barkley.
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Exactly. Drafting a talented QB prospect high not only brings hope to the franchise but it buys Pace time. Taking 9 wins and Matt Barkley into your third season as a GM is asking to be fired.
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I think the appreciation between the Bear and Barkley will be mutual. He's also obviously found a system that fits and allows, even encourages him to be himself.
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I think, he could make it but 'all the throws' is relative.
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I agree why would he want to leave the only place he has had success and built some confidence.
Pay him a reasonable salary for a QB competing to start and tell him to battle with a high draft pick.
Give him 2 years 10 million and a big per start bonus.
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That is the premise of what he was saying.
In week 4 of the 2017 season you can't go to bench Barkley and have nothing behind him like this season. 4-6 wins and no real future at QB would be devastating to this regime.
He said if Barkley plays well you have your QB and a potential valuable trade chip.
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Exactly. If you like a guy at 4 but Barkley plays his way into a starting role, I'd bet you could easily recoup a decent first, and if loosing 10 spots in the draft is the risk then so be it.
My only problem with this is I am not sure there will be a QB worth taking at 4. If we had a good OC that develops QBs maybe, but who would pay a premium for Kizer developed by loggains for a year or two.
This is why I am on board with a Mike McCoy hire at OC and let him know if he can turn around the offense that it is a straight shot back to HC. I would love a Jim Bob Cooter or Shanny but they will likely get current HC offers.
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Just his opinion but one I agree with. We're also not winning the SB next year so Barkley, Shaw and Pick duking it out appeals to me. I don't want any more 1 yr rentals until we're in a position to challenge for a ring. In contention for a playoff spot next year with a young team would have me ecstatic.
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If the Bears end up in that second bracket of talent that starts around the 5-7th pic, I would neither be surprised by a trade down nor be disappointed in one. That is assuming Pace could get, say, a mid 1st, 2nd and 3rd. The 6th for the 16th, 48th, and 80th are near identical values. If the QB values remain low, snagging one in the mid first, along with 4 more picks in the top 80 , with Pace's success with early mid round picks, that could go a long way to energizing this franchise.
Kizer QB
Tankersley CB Clemson
Maye S Florida
Leggett TE Clemson
Quincy Wilson CB Florida
That would be a strong first 3 rounds
Kizer QB
Tankersley CB Clemson
Maye S Florida
Leggett TE Clemson
Quincy Wilson CB Florida
That would be a strong first 3 rounds
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I'm with you but I think if he wanted Kizer or Trubisky and he was there outside the top 5, he'd just push the easy button. Of course he may not value Kizer that much and do exactly as you suggest and maneuver for a different QB later. We don't know if Falk or Rudolf are coming out yet and even guys like Kelly, Beathard and Peterman are not bad 2nd day prospects. Watson is a wild card for me. I don't have a very good feel for where he'll go right now.
