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This. You have to mix in draft picks as well. You can’t just buy all your players in FA.
This. You have to mix in draft picks as well. You can’t just buy all your players in FA.
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I have to say that i disagree with this. Meredith is not a better route runner then A.Rob but is a good route runner and Meredith can go up and get it.
I see those two as being pretty damn similar.
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Reread my post. Maybe Pace wanted him to get a multiyear offer so that he will be secured beyond this season. If it is a stupid offer, Cam is among a large handful of FA's of his caliber, let him go. If it's reasonable, the player likes that he got to test FA and is a happy returner vs an unhappy guy feeling as though he has to wait a yr until he becomes a URFA because the team restricted his movement with the 2nd rnd tender. If he gets no decent offer the Bears than have the ability to let him play on a cheap deal or make a deal he may have thought was too low before seeing his market.
Personally, I think Pace played this very well in regard to respecting the player and also allowing the team right of refusal, much like the Kyle Fuller deal
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I still think we should keep seven wrs. in looking at this article—
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1640782-the-anatomy-of-a-53-man-roster-in-the-nfl
i think we could pull a roster spot from somewhere.
(Unless we can stash a WR on the practice squad)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1640782-the-anatomy-of-a-53-man-roster-in-the-nfl
i think we could pull a roster spot from somewhere.
(Unless we can stash a WR on the practice squad)
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Disagree. Meredith is not at all a jump ball WR.
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I think people need to stop acting like they know what kind of player Cam is yet. He's played one year for us and that's without teams having any game tape to watch with him. The 2nd year for receivers is where you find out what they really are IMO cause teams now do have tape to watch of that player to know what he likes to do and how he plays. I'm as big a Meredith fan as anyone cause he was a good UDFA find for R.Pace and played very well for us but there's no way to know how good or bad he will be when he's back to good health and that's if he is back to 100% health with that serious injury he went through. I know some like to play Mr Cleo on here but until we see him playing again it's hard to know what he'll be.
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Meredith is not worth more then 5M period. IMHO his fair market value is 3.5M. I just don’t see him getting that many targets in this offense.
ARob will get 125-150 targets and Gabriel will be the 2nd most targeted. Then either Cohen, Burton, or Shaheen should get the 3rd most targets.
Which leaves Meredith, White, one of the three that is nit the 3rd most targeted to fight for targets.
Meredith is likely to be the 4th or 5th most targeted receiver. If he gets 50 targets that would be good. NO WAY is that production worth 5M.
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ARob will get 125-150 targets and Gabriel will be the 2nd most targeted. Then either Cohen, Burton, or Shaheen should get the 3rd most targets.
Which leaves Meredith, White, one of the three that is nit the 3rd most targeted to fight for targets.
Meredith is likely to be the 4th or 5th most targeted receiver. If he gets 50 targets that would be good. NO WAY is that production worth 5M.
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If Meredith gets another offer that's too much, Bears should just try to pry Snead from the Saints for what they wanted to offer Cam. Replace an RFA with another RFA. :thinking:
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Never said he was a jump ball WR. I very clearly said he can go up and get it. If you watch his game tape from the 2016 season you'll see how he's really good at high pointing the ball which is actually a drill they use at the combine. I'm not saying he's A.Jefferies or J.Jones and goes up and takes it away from the defender but don't really think A.Rob is either even though i'm sure both could win some jump balls every now and again. Either way i still see them as somewhat similar receivers and still disagree with you saying Meredith is a better route runner then A.Rob is. Meredith runs good routes but A.Rob is better at route running.
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The issue here is if you have to go out and sign Hurns for 7-10 million because you let Meredith go because of a stupid offer then you should have just signed him to 2.9 million and saved like 4-7 million this year.
I don't have a problem with Pace putting the 1.9 million tender on him provided he has guessed the market correctly. If he hasn't and someone does provide a crazy offer and he is not prepared to match then he didn't play things well, he miscalculated.
We just have to see things play out before we know whether Pace guessed/gambled correctly or not because in the end that is what this boils down to. You either made the right gamble like he did with Fuller or you did not.
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Before fa started I had no faith in getting top guys and had Wallace near the top of my list of tier 3 guys we should go for. I still think he is a good fit but this is only a scenario if we lose Meredith and don’t want to draft a wr this year
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Why do you think Gabriel will get the 2nd most targets?
He basically does two things: screens and deep balls. Weights 170lbs. He's not the kind of player who's going to absorb 80+ targets.
I bet after Arob there will be about 4 or guys with something like 45-65 targets pending health.
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You don't want to read the other 7700 posts. This is why I hate general threads like this for free agency.
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I think the Falcons are a good example of target distribution for a team with a#1 WR and good receiving backs.
11 Julio Jones* WR --- 148 -Robinson
12 Mohamed Sanu WR --- 96 -?
81 Austin Hooper TE --- 65 - Burton
18 Taylor Gabriel WR --- 51 - Gabriel
24 Devonta FreemanWR --- 47 -Cohen
26 Tevin Coleman fb/rb --- 39 -Shaheen
Probably a few more for Cohen and Shaheen and a few less for Robinson
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5M? No problem. I think he more likely is just under that but I'd even pay a bit more if I had to. Had he stayed healthy last year, I think we'd be looking at significantly more. He looked like he was to turning a corner running routes and he has the rest.
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I don't see that happening at all. Gabriel is a complementary receiver to stretch the field vertically for everyone else. Sounds like you're expecting that simply because of how much he was being paid. I don't see him getting more targets than Meredith or Robinson would.
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“Jump ball” skills and “go up and get it “ are the same thing...
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Interesting visit yesterday for #Colts: #Bears RFA WR Cameron Meredith, who I'm told is doing well with ACL rehab.
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Interesting visit yesterday for #Colts: #Bears RFA WR Cameron Meredith, who I'm told is doing well with ACL rehab.
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