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Correct. I don't see Mitch turning it over 5 times in one game.
Correct. I don't see Mitch turning it over 5 times in one game.
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Like Mitch would bother with single G titties. Please.
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But what was his passer rating?
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Ahh, good point.
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Mahomes actually had a higher bust factor. Traditionally, guy that come from that system fail after tremendous college success. Personally, I liked him simply due to generational arm talent but I also understood that lots of great arms don't become great NFL QBs.
Pace went for the guy he thought was his safest long term option. A miss would have been a disaster. Team wasn't ready and is actually now ahead of schedule so taking the guy that would need the most time wasn't an issue. Personally, I was thinking more about 2019 as when we'd really compete for the division title.
Pace couldn't afford to miss here (and it literally looks like he couldn't have regardless of which of the 3 guys he picked). I'm just saying that I understand the pick and that it made a lot of sense. If I wanted instant gratification, I take Watson. if I have a vet and am rolling the dice for most upside, I take Mahomes. Pace had a couple years to play with here and believed Mitch was the safest mix of upside and floor if given proper grooming. Doesn't mean he was right but it kinda looked like that at the time.
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Honestly I am not convinced that Watson and Trubs wouldn't put up similar numbers in KC. That offense and their weapons are just ridiculous. But in terms of pure numbers then yeah Mahommes is on a different planet right now.
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I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Mahomes sink down to plant Earth soon. We've seen this story play out time and time again, starting with Kaepernick. Young new QB comes in and sets the league on fire... then fizzles out (or just cools off) in his second year (starting).
To be honest, I am more impressed with Goff than anyone. At this point, if I had to choose between Goff and Mahomes to start building my team, I may choose Goff because in the long run, he may have more staying power in the NFL. We'll see.
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Something to watch is how Mahomes competes late in games when trailing. It's a small sample size but he is 3-8 for 40yrds and 2INT's and a 14 passer rating when trailing with <2minutes left this season, all from last nights game.
Trailing with <4minutes he is 11-17 203 2/2 with a 105 rating. He is an excellent front runner, but some thoroughbreds crumble when the get in a heated battle. It may be nothing, but he certainly had issues in the 2 minute drill last night.
Of course the obligatory MT numbers 6-12 97yrds 0/0 passer rating 74 for both under 2 and 4 minutes trailing.
Trailing with <4minutes he is 11-17 203 2/2 with a 105 rating. He is an excellent front runner, but some thoroughbreds crumble when the get in a heated battle. It may be nothing, but he certainly had issues in the 2 minute drill last night.
Of course the obligatory MT numbers 6-12 97yrds 0/0 passer rating 74 for both under 2 and 4 minutes trailing.
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I was just thinking about how many QBs I would no question take over Trubisky
Brees
Ryan
Wentz
Rodgers
Goff
Russell
Mahomes
Rivers
Luck
Brady
Big Ben
Right now he would be a toss up with Newton and Watson to be the 12th QB I would want leading my team.
With 5 of those guys 34+ I think we are in a good position with Mitch. We just need him to get more experience and consistency.
Brees
Ryan
Wentz
Rodgers
Goff
Russell
Mahomes
Rivers
Luck
Brady
Big Ben
Right now he would be a toss up with Newton and Watson to be the 12th QB I would want leading my team.
With 5 of those guys 34+ I think we are in a good position with Mitch. We just need him to get more experience and consistency.
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I am assuming you mean in a one game or one season situation. Factoring age who gets peeled off that list? I would say all but Wentz, Goff, and Mahomes. I think the Mahomes, Watson, Trubisky ultimate hierarchy needs this season and next to really become somewhat cemented.
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One season - Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Wilson, Rivers, Luck, Mahommes, Watson, Goff
I would take Watson as I think he has a bit more clutch in him at this point. Wouldn't take Wentz as not sold him on at all this year.
Long term - Rodgers, Wilson
Goff, Wentz, Mahommes, and Watson are too young for me to say for sure I would take them longer term. Brees and Brady too old. Rivers and Luck, I am not sold on their playoff pedigree or lack thereof.
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In a hypothetical situation where you could magically replace Trubisky with anyone from the list and they would instantly know our playbook, I would still trade with all of those on the list that are 35+.
For example, put Brees on this Bears team and we have a great chance at winning the Superbowl this year. I think we would be hands down the favorite.
I would trade that for him retiring in a few years and then finding a new QB.
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When you say one season, do you mean we then magically get Trubisky back after this year?
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I took it to mean that Virginia McCaskey sells Bears franchise to Donald Trump, who then relocates team to New Jersey and renames them the Knights.
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In 2018 that would be my list.
In 2019 the list shrinks considerably.
My point being that most people would have Trubisky in the top 12-15 of guys for 2018 and top 10 for the long term.
In 2019 the list shrinks considerably.
My point being that most people would have Trubisky in the top 12-15 of guys for 2018 and top 10 for the long term.
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No meaning not looking beyond this year. So guys I would be hoping could win a SB this year.
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I guess you didn't watch the end of the Titans game.
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Not sure what Titans game you referring to but wouldn't use a single game as indicative of anything.
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